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[edit] Adding New Portal to Related portals

I would like to add the US Navy Portal to the releated portals. The problem is when you try to add six portals to the box it kinda smooshes the sixth one on the right and it makes the center uneven. So, before I replaced anything I thought I would bring it up and here and get a few opinions first. --Wilsbadkarma 08:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

  • You're in there. Unfortunately the Aussies had to be removed. I think they'll get over it.--Looper5920 08:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Honestly thats who I figured you would kick out. --Wilsbadkarma 08:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Medal of Honor Image

I propose to replace the standard Medal of Honor image Image:MoH.jpg for the military infoboxes of modern recipients with this one: . I got the image from the USMC site on Jason Dunham. The ribbon is folded more neatly and the image is clearer and more symmetrical. I've already apllied it to an article I created here. Compare that to [[1]]. Looks better, no? Windyjarhead 22:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I agree the new version looks better. I have no objections with a switch. Alot of changes to do it manually. Might be better with a bot.--Looper5920 00:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Looks good to me. Kafziel Talk 07:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
  • The old image has been marked for deletion. MikeMullins 20:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USMC seal in SVG format

I uploaded a SVG version of the USMC seal. You can find it here.--Darz Mol 01:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal

A proposal with regards to this portal has been made here. Comments are welcome.--cj | talk 04:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Korea Conflict ? Other USMC Div. Served?

Was the 1st Marine Division the only USMC Division serving in Korea during the war?

  • The 3rd Marine DIvison arrived in Korea in August 1953 and fought the last few months of the war.--Looper5920 20:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit history problem

I have added a reference to the alleged Haditha massacre in the 'Did you know' section twice today. The first has been removed, and I have just restored it. I fully expect the second edit to be removed, for very obvious reasons: to some, this is un-news to be downplayed. I, on the other hand, consider it to be of sufficient encyclopaedic importance to go on the portal front page. So, in the event of a second counter-edit, I shall then seek the adjudication of an administrator. However, in the edit log, there seems to be no record of my first edit, or of any edit since March 2006. Can someone explain how the edit logs for portal front pages work? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.129.143.52 (talk • contribs) 19:57 UTC, June 5, 2006 (UTC)

As predicted, the reversion has occurred again. Could whoever did this please post the reason why on this page. I would argue that a 'Did you know' section can reasonably contain a current news item, especially one as important as this, which is making headlines and which has a WP entry of its own. I am still mystified about the edit log. ANy guidance gratefull received on that score ... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.129.143.52 (talk • contribs) 20:47 UTC, June 6, 2006 (UTC)

  • While I appreciate that "You" can argue the DYK is used for current events, that is not it's purpose. If it were, than there would be no "Did you know" facts rather it would be a daily synopsis of what is happening with the Haditha investigation. We are in the process of creating a window in the portal for current events but it is not up and running as of yet. When that is up then I am sure that Haditha will be adequately covered. Other problems with your posts are that first and foremost Marines are not Soldiers so do not refer to them as such. This Portal has active maintainers so please coordinate with others before you attempt to post anything. Thirdly, your posts were poorly worded and factually incorrect at times. That should be enough for now.--Looper5920 22:27, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
  • For an analogy, see the "Did you know" section on the Wikipedia Main page (left column). It is not for current events, but rather contains interesting facts from various articles in Wikipedia. The Main page does have a specific "In the news" section for "breaking news". Some portals do have a news section, and some do not. As noted above, this portal does not have a news/current events section. If you are interested in contributing information on the current events concerning Haditha, there is an article on the topic that is keeping up with current information. (Do be aware that with the controversy surrounding the topic, as well as the incomplete information, changes to the article are discussed on the talk page prior to making major changes.) Hope this helps. —ERcheck (talk) @ 22:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Haditha restored yet again. I have no comment on Looper's patronising and high-handed note, which seems to me to be contrary to Wikipedia etiquette in a number of ways. ERcheck: in the absence of a news section, I maintain that a reference to Haditha is perfectly reasonable encyclopaedically on the front page of this portal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.129.143.52 (talk • contribs) 23:24 UTC, June 8, 2006 (UTC)
  • Which seems to me to be contrary to Wikipedia etiquette in a number of ways - Which part? Was it where I said that the DYK section is not the place to recap current events? It is not. Was it where I pointed out that soldiers are not Marines? They are not. Was it where I pointed out that you did not coordinate with anyone before making your changes? You did not. Was it where I said they were poorly worded (refering to soldiers as Marines and improper use of capitals) or factually incorrect (No officer was present when the incident occured so the officers will only be investigated for covering it up.) They were. What is patronising and high-handed is your repeated attempt to interject this statement in a place where it does not belong.--Looper5920 00:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2d Marine Logistics Group Insignia

I have added the insignia of 2d MLG to Image:2MLG.jpg Rob110178 03:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unit Histories

I'm working on the 3rd Battalion 3rd Marines page and was wondering if there are any good websites for unit histories. Obviously the battalions combat history is pretty-well detailed, but I can't find that much on its post-Vietnam deployments. Palm_Dogg 22:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried http://www.mcbh.usmc.mil/3mar/3dbn/3dbn%203dmar.htm ? Rob110178 22:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Some unit histories are very incomplete on their offcial websites. As for making the article better here are a few quick thoughts.....

From what I have seen to really get a good article on a unit going you start off with the official one they have on their website. Edit it to remove alot of the bias, POV and trumped up language that you will find. From their make sure it does not read like an eye chart. By that I mean spell out the acronyms and link them when possible. Remember that you are writing for a non-military audience so you should assume little to no knowledge on behalf of the reader. That is the easy part. To really make these article encyclopedic you need to then do some research. Read books would be the first suggestion. My little wikipedia addiction had also cost me a few hundred bucks in books purchased just to update articles. I am not advocating that but what I am saying is that if there is information lacking then go to the library and check out books or spend an hour or two researching on amazon for books on current deployments and I am sure someone in your unit will own it. Look in the indexes for 3/3. Scour the net beyond a simple Google search or two. If you are really feeling strong about it you can probably request a copy of the official unit history from the Marine Corps Historical Division in Quantico.

Another thing is to be careful to strike the proper balance between good info and just way to much. If you read some US Navy pages they are just a succession of two line sentences saying "this unit did a WESTPAC from Jan to Jun 86 where they supported Balikatan..... Then they redeployed and did a WESTPAC from....." I would argue that every single little deployment does not need to be there. Combat deployments...yes please and really expand them, MEUS...sure for the most part....CAX 98...absolutely not, way to much info, not encyclopedic and no one cares.

Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a rant but I just kind of got going. Hope some of it helps...--Looper5920 23:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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