User talk:Unflavoured

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[edit] Thanks

This editing thing is incredibly complicated at times. I wanna add stuff, but the jargon-like interface is...
Sa.vakilian, when i click on the link to your name, it says that you are are level-one in arabic, level-2 in english, etc etc, how do i add those things ?! {{helpme}} Help please. Thank you.

Ah, you're looking for WP:Babel. You may also be interested in Wikipedia:Userboxes. SWAdair 10:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Exactly what I needed! Thank you!

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! Oh, and you're welcome for the links to Babel and Userboxes. SWAdair 11:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Salam

Salam Unflavoured! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some recommended guidelines to facilitate your involvement. Happy Editing!--Sa.vakilian 03:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC) Getting Started Wikipedia Tutorial How to edit a page The five pillars of Wikipedia Manual of Style Be bold in editing How to write a great article WikiProjects Getting your info out there Cite your sources Neutral Point of View Point of View Verifiability Uploading images Image use policy Getting more Wikipedia rules Policy Library Getting Help New contributors' help page Where to ask a question Help Desk Frequently Asked Questions Getting along Wikiquette Civility Sign your posts Wikipedians Conflict resolution Getting technical Cleaning up vandalism Pages needing attention Peer review Utilities Village pump

I'm glad to meet you and offer to add your name in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam.--Sa.vakilian 03:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hadith

Unflavoured, even Muslim scholars argue about which hadith are strong, weak, or unreliable. Western academic scholars are even more skeptical. They believe that most hadith (even the sahih ones) are later inventions. Therefore you can't conclude that because Tirmidhi says Muhammad said something, therefore Muhammad said it. Hadith involving Sunni-Shi'a issues are particularly problematic, because these hadith were first written down after the overthrow of the Umayyads and when the Sunni and Shi'a were finally irrevocably splitting.

I'm not making this argument from a Shi'a viewpoint. Most of the Shi'a editors dislike me intensely, because I am writing from a Western academic viewpoint. Insofar as is possible (there's only one of me and I can't watch all the Islam-related articles) I try to make sure that articles are as neutral as possible. That means not allowing statements that make POV assumptions.

That also means opposing anti-Muslim bigots, who dislike me as well. Welcome to Wikipedia :) Zora 06:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Using "narrated" is NOT OK in my book -- it's used by ulema, not by Western academic scholars. It's an idiosyncratic usage with a religious flavor, and makes it sound as if the matn were true. Which it may not be. Look at the rewrite I did and see if that's better. Zora 06:42, 4 February 2007 (UTC)