Talk:Unconditional love
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This article contains unnecessary Christian propaganda.
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Unless some drastic editing/revision takes place to this article within the next 7 days it seems destined for deletion since it is largely an extended POV consisting of lengthy extracts culled from other publications, heavily biassed and completely unsuitable for Wikipedia. 82.40.208.142 13:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Dammit, I was just about to post the exact same thing but you beat me to it. But yah, this is a pathetic excuse for an article.220.238.236.67 13:52, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeps, i say cleanup too, this is an encyclopedia NOT a political/religious article or forum. Invisible pyromanic leprechaun 11:49, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Holy proliferation of religious material batman. I'm sorry. Even as a fairly devout Christian, I can't rightly accept a Christianity-patriotic load in Wiki. There is no redemption for this here article; talking full rewrite.
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[edit] No need to delete
I'm going to stubify this article to prevent its deletion. I think that there's a lot that can be said about this topic, and that deletion would be inappropriate. A rewrite, on the other hand, would be quite in order! --N Shar 01:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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- There is indeed much that has been written on this topic. I added one reference. I also suggest a tie in to Unconditional Forgiveness, or to David? Snarch's Passionate Marriage, The Sexual Crucible and other authors who discuss Conditional Love. (drop in editor)
[edit] Expand this article....
....but not with nonsense. Surely there's more to say than the small stub that already exists. --N Shar 03:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Unconditional versus conditional love
A number of authors have made a distinction between conditioning and unconditioning love. These distinctions were quite helpful for me to better understand what unconditional love is. How do we show these differences here? How do we include the idea of conditional love...here or in another article? Anacapa 04:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree that this page needs to be expanded upon, but it should not have the judgmental views that are expressed later in the description. An encyclopedia should be based on facts, not someone's opinions, regardless of whether they are outwardly identified or not. This is certainly a noteworthy subject, however I came here looking for answers to end a debate, thinking of wikipedia as a highly reliable source, and I left here realizing I already knew more than the site could offer. A rewrite is definitely in order!!
[edit] pros and cons about unconditional foregiveness
Content at issue:
- Others see this as a misunderstanding of the Christian concept of forgiveness. Pope John Paul II in an encyclical wrote that the "requirement of forgiveness does not cancel out the objective requirements of justice. . In no passage of the gospel message does forgiveness, or mercy as its source, mean indulgence toward evil, toward scandals, toward injury or insult. In any case, reparation for evil and scandal, compensation for injury, and satisfaction for insult are conditions for forgiveness" (Dives in Misericordia 14)
Long discussions about unconditional foregiveness belong in an article on that topic not an article on unconditional love. Please discuss why this was debated here. I will wait a few weeks before deleting this content and adding it to appropriate forgiveness articles. (drop in editor)
I pulled the above forgiveness content. Please move it to the forgiveness article if relevant there. (drop in editor) 209.129.49.65 04:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Confusing
Following the reference to Heather Mills, is the sentence "However, one can follow the 'gold' in these cases and observe who uses whose 'gold' for charitable forms of power." Is this part of the Heather Mills quote? If not, I think the sentence needs to be deleted. It is confusing, not factual and somewhat off the topic. MrsPlum 02:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
