Talk:Uncaught third strike

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Is this the stupidest rule in baseball?

TimShell 17:42, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

You must be an Angels fan 0:(

But I would like to hear a knowledgeable explanation on why this rules exists and how it philosophically fits into the game.

Before I try to explain why this rule IS needed, I am curious to see why you think it is NOT needed. I for one can not see how the game of baseball could fully funcion properly with out the dropped third strike rule! 172.133.149.20 04:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)nick22aku

From Hamp: It's not that the rule is not needed, however, it would appear to not be necessary if the stike out had already occurred. Once the batter swings, misses, and thereby creates his thrid strike, it would seem that at that instant an out has occurred, whether the Catcher catches the ball or not. I always thought that the logic of the "third strike rule" was that baseball wanted to control the ball and therefore a miss-caught third strike did not complete the play, however an argument against that is presented here: [1] So, the logic behind allowing the Batter to run to first base after his third swing (third strike) when the catcher does not catch that third strike is.........

I believe the reasoning is that an out cannot be recorded until a member of the defense has control of the ball. Fumblebruschi 16:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

This article should be merged with the strikeout article. Vidor 06:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neutral POV, also Roder Reference

It seems to me the use of the word "claimed" when referring to umpire Eddings' actions introduces a point of view that his claims are not credible. Absent any credible evidence that someone heard him call Pierzynski out, his explanation should stand without the pejorative reference to his "claim."

What is the proper way to cite someone's claim without judgment on the truth of such claim? The video of the incident shows two signals, which only makes sense if one is "strike" and the other "out". An umpire can "call a batter out" without using his voice. --PSzalapski 21:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, your most recent edit (21:15, 15 March 2007) expresses the situation without casting doubt on Eddings credibility. Justus R 03:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The Roder citation is helpful. However, I did not understand it to mean that the specific rule enforcement change under discussion had been considered before the 2005 ALCS incident. If there is a reference to establish that it had, then it would be appropriate to mention it.

Justus R 20:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)