Talk:Un chien andalou

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DEBASER

 Got me a movie
 I want you to know
 Slicing up eyeballs
 I want you to know
 Girlie so groovy
 I want you to know
 Don't know about you
 But I am un chien Andalusia

 I am un chien Andalusia 

 Wanna grow
 Up to be 
 Be a debaser

 Debaser 

 Got me a movie
 Ha ha ha hoa
 Slicing up eyeballs
 Ha ha ha hoa
 Girlie so groovie
 Ha ha ha hoa
 Don't know about you
 But I am un chien Andalusia

 I am un chien Andalusia 

 Debaser 

 Frank Black 

Frank Black is basically describing through this song how Un Chien Andalou had affected him after seeing it. He thought that the film was debasing the industry and wanted to do the same through music.

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If anyone thinks there should be a seperate article for this song, feel free. I'm not so sure about the 'policy' for individual songs, however. Junes 12:10, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Now there's a Debaser. --romanm (talk) 01:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Picture from film 2 calf's eye 3 Influences 4 Analysis 5 Name

[edit] Picture from film

Is there a reason why Image:Andalou.jpg is not marked to be in public domain? There's also Image:Chien andalou frame publicdomain.png on Commons with the same motive. Shouldn't we use that one instead? --romanm (talk) 01:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Isn't the caption under the image something of a spoiler? Not that the slicing is unexpected, but it is unexpected how graffic it is

[edit] calf's eye

I'm pretty sure the slashing scene was fake. If i recall, you can see tufts of hair around the eye, since they used a dead calf. If anyone believes this is not the case, correct me...

You are absolutely correct. A close viewing of the film shows the differences between the actress's eye and the calf's eye. StavinChain 22:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Influences

The information under "influences" is starting to look too much like trivia. Some of it, such as the Silence of the Lambs video cover, sounds like it could be WP:OR. What does everyone else think? --GHcool 06:38, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

If it was really influential than there should be enough information to devote prose to the influence rather than a bulleted statement. As in "Un chien's influence can be seen in X, Y, and Z in the general surreal tone and camerawork." Then in separate paragraphs more detail on X, Y, and Z or a link to the appropriate section in the articles of X, Y, and Z. I'm using X, Y, and Z because I think we should highlight the three (or some other small number) most important influences, and then list other homages that are very obvious and definitely not OR. As for the specific claim on Silence, I think a screen shot would verify/prove the claim. (Since Un chien can be found on the internet, one should be able to do this fairly easily.)--Supernumerary 08:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

In any case, there is no doubt that the moth in "Un Chien Andalou" and that used for various art (posters, DVD cover, etc.) for "The Silence of the Lambs" are of the same species. I'm not sure this is actually OR, but whether this is hommage or just coincidence (due to the striking nature of the skull image on the moth) is what is up for debate. I'll post a cap of the closeup from "Un Chien Andalou" as soon as I read the "how to" on that. StavinChain 22:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

The presence of apparent trivia in the Influence section weakens it greatly in my view. They do need differentiation. High Heels on Wet Pavement 19:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Analysis

several unattributed opinions - (no doubt attributable to notable sources-- but which?) High Heels on Wet Pavement 20:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Just curious, why isn't the name capitalized? - Anas ^talk? 21:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Because that's how they write titles in French. There's a discussion going at the moment about whether it's a good idea to follow foreign language norms in an English encyclopedia - see Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (films)#Capitalization_in_titles. Cop 633 01:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)