Talk:Umphrey's McGee

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Contents 1 Improv descriptions 2 Origin 3 confirmation 4 improvisational method 5 jimmy stewart writeup and reorganization 6 Where can I find the information on these comments? 7 Discography/Songography

[edit] Improv descriptions

Umm...as colorful as some of the improv. descriptions are, do we think that someone could make these more accurate... for instance the "bounceback" form is just ABA if you listen to it. Anyway, just a thought

Just another thought: you also don't want to downplay what they're doing, since it's more like XYX because it's not (usually) a rehearsed or even premeditated piece Kevglynn

[edit] Origin

If they formed at Notre Dame, how can they be from Chicago? If they did originate in the South Bend/Mishawaka area, the claim that they are from Chicago is inaccurate.--Eric 22:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

In response to Eric's question about the band's "home", in truth, there's been much debate about where that actually is. In sum, the band formed in South Bend and resided there from 1998 through mid-2000. In the summer of 2000, after graduating from UND, the band relocated to Chicago (and quickly added guitarist Jake Cinninger). Though the band's seeds were originally planted in South Bend, a new lineup and a totally new sound gave them right circumstance to call Chicago their (albeit adopted) home; after all, Chicago is where the current axoim of the band was tethered, and is also the city-of-residence for all six band members. -The Other Tim

FOR THE RECORD....Umphrey's Rocks harder than anyone out there right now

[edit] confirmation

Can anybody confirm that this sentence is notable: "Andy Gadiel, an early fan who founded the wildly popular JamBase.com website (as well as the most popular Phish website ever, Andy Gadiel's Phish Page) and has enormous influence within the jamband community, gave glowing reviews of the band and helped spread curiosity about the Umphrey's McGee concert experience."?

It's been there since an 70.144.87.111 wrote the majority of the article back in January 2005. There was a lot of good stuff in that edit, I just wonder if that sentence is giving a little more credit than what's due. --Tedwardo2 23:18, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] improvisational method

I am deleting from the article: "This was a completely new approach to group improvisation, and was much more detailed and in depth than that of their predecessors or their contemporaries."

This sentence really needs to be backed up in order to stay in the article. At least explain what their approach is. Then explain why it's different from anyone else's. Dunhamrc 04:46, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] jimmy stewart writeup and reorganization

i just finished reorganizing things a bit and adding a couple of links, fairly noncontroversial. i added McL jimmy stewart writeup. on second thought perhaps this was innapropriate and i think i will delete it and put it in as an external resource. i would like to use some of his text to add a subsection on the jimmy stewart. ill send him a message on the bort

[edit] Where can I find the information on these comments?

In particular, I am interested it what the sources are for the following sections of the entry:

• Around 2001, the band began practicing intense improvisational exercises. One of their first productive jam sessions took place in a hotel in the "Jimmy Stewart Ballroom" during the wedding of fan/website designer Jeremy Welsh. Therefore, the band began to call their onstage improvisational excursions "Jimmy Stewart." This form of improvisation differs in approach from the methods utilized by many of their jam band peers and has been extensively outlined by "McL" in the "Jimmy Stewart writeup" on the fan message board known as "The Bort" at www.umphreaks.com.
• Umphrey's played to their largest audience to date. Surprisingly, the band sold more CDs than any other artist on the bill which included Widespread Panic, Trey Anastasio, and Norah Jones.
• The band released the critically acclaimed Anchor Drops .... The album received rave reviews from several high-profile magazines.--Moeron 20:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discography/Songography

The song catalogue of Umphrey's is unbelievably extensive for a touring rock band, and I'd like to see this represented. It might be worthwhile to have a page dedicated to their song catalogue the way some bands have a page dedicated to their discography. The data for this sort of pursuit could come from phantasytour.com since they pretty much already have the information. Then again, maybe just a link to phantasytour.com or a reference to it might do. what do peopel think?Kevglynn