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[edit] Please Help

Dear Tyrenius, Please foregive me for the length of this plea. I hope you can delete these after you read them. I am about to ask you for help on a subject that may not be of interest to you at all. However, I am hopping that your concern for the integrity of wikipedia may give enough of motivation to help. I have been blocked by agroup of Persian editors who want to prevent any argument that may balance their extreme views. They blong to Iranchamber belog.

I've deleted the rest of this as it's so long. It's accessible via history. Please take your case to WP:AN or go through WP:DRV procedures. And when/if you do, be succinct. One paragraph with some key diffs to start with. You seem to be creating sock puppets. I suggest you stop doing this. It's not going to help your cause. Tyrenius 01:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Socks and suchlike

Please see Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/O'Donoghue, and also the earlier Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/El chulito and a related ANI report from a while ago that pre-dates the new checkuser. Would it be possible for him to edit from just one account rather than the current situation? One Night In Hackney303 02:00, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I saw your busy status and figured it would be better dealt with rather than waiting. One Night In Hackney303 01:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of American Artists

Dear Tyrenius,

RE: second deletion of "list of American Artists" page, you wrote:

Despite the above message, you have simply recreated the article without any discussion. Please don't do this again in breach of the AfD decision. Also there is no authority to bar red links from an article. Tyrenius 00:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

This is not entirely accurate, the list was not "simply recreated." On your advice, I read the discussion on the similar page that had been deleted some time ago, and understood that the previous problems had been that biographical information was not included, the term "artist" was vague, and that the page was open to multiple redlinks, and could therefore become too large. So I then added biographical information to every last entry on the page, defined the term "artist" to mean "fine artist" and "visual artist," and added the condition at the top of the page that redlinks "might" be deleted ( I got this idea from someone in the discussion, I wasn't aware such a suggestion was out of line). I entered:

This is a list of historically recognized American fine artists known for the creation of artworks which are primarily visual in nature, such as painting, sculpture, photography, printmaking, installation art, and filmmaking. Add names in alphabetical order. Only names with biographical information will be maintained, and redlinks may be deleted.

By entering this, and adding all the biographical information, I felt I had answered the complaints argued in the discussion, and that i had therefore "substantially" changed the entire page, and could upload it. I regret my misunderstanding.

There are MANY Wikipedia "lists" that list artists by nationality (including a very LONG list of British artists, to which you have contributed), so I'm unclear why American artists are to be singled out for exclusion: there were only 17 more artists listed in the American page I submitted than are listed in the British Artists page -- and every one of the artists I listed were Wikilinked. is it only a matter of form and structure? If the American list were organized in the exact same way as the list of British artists (i.e., by century), would that meet your guidelines? Or if I made a separate page entirely for each century, with the "List of American Artists" page serving only as a reference page with links to the other pages?

We are a young country with less than three centuries of history, and have worked hard to be recognized as contributing to the world of fine art. Even in the U.S., the cultural community took a long time to accept that American artists had any value: the Metropolitan Museum of Art in new York didn't have a curator of American Art until the 1940s. I believe that a Wikipedia page could help in this area, and it would be in the Wikipedia spirit: for those who are interested to do research into American artists, a comprehensive list -- with biographical dates and artistic medium (which do not appear on the "American Artists" category page) -- could be helpful. How could this be done?

Best regards,

Trackway

[edit] Advice Please

Tyrenius, I really do not wish to trouble you, but could you possibly have a look at this for me. [[1]], [[2]], [[3]] This is my first attempt at reverting an edit, and the response it has received is a bit over the top. I most certainly do not wish to be called a vandal, if I put forward a reason for it. Sorry for troubling you Regards--Domer48 19:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Hey! I just wanted to drop you a line and thank you for blocking the anonymous IP editor, who was posting genitalia on my user page! [4] I've been really busy the last couple of weeks and - believe it or not - I only noticed last night that my page had been being vandalized for weeks! Thank goodness someone was watching it, because I certainly wasn't! LOL! Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks! I know we don't always agree, from an editorial perspective, and I wanted you to know how much I appreciate your help. I hope that you are enjoying this first blush of spring. Peace, Cleo123 05:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You Tyrenius

Thanks very much for that advice, it was very useful and apologies for having to trouble you. Regards --Domer48 16:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MichaelRichardsShow

How do I get the screen shot from the following web site into the Michael Richards article, next to the section on the Michael Richards Show?

This is the web site:

http://celebs.electronicnewsnetwork.com/michael-richards/

It says on the web site that:

This guide may be distributed and copied freely, in its entirety, for personal use. All original author and copyright information must remain intact. Any sales or other uses of this document are expressly forbidden, without the specific consent of the author(s).

I am referring to the picture with Michael Richards with four other cast members.

Thank you. Bus stop 17:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of American Artists

Dear Tyrenius,

Thank you for your advice on a possible "List of American Artists" page. I've read over the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of American artists), and given consideration to the opinions expressed there. A number of discussants suggest that such a list is not needed, as a "category" of American Artists exists; but there is no structure at all to the category page, outside of listing artists alphabetically -- irrespective of dates and media. Also among the concerns are that the quantity of artists could get out of hand, not only because of "non-notable entries," but also because the term "artist" can be seen as very broad. I would like to create a page simply dedicated to "fine artists" specifically dedicated to the "visual arts."

You suggested the possibility of dividing the 20th century of American artists into 4 periods; after some experimenting, I came to feel that dividing the century into 3 periods reflects the "generations" of artists in a much more traditionally "historical" way, in that it tends to keep artists together who are generally considered to be contemporaries of one another.

I'm looking for input from those interested. I can put up the page as described above at any time. I've created a talk page for this issue, with a full description of how the page would be structured, at:

Talk:List_of_American_artists

I posted the same proposal on the WikiProject_Visual_arts talk page, at your suggestion, as well.

I look forward to further input and advice,

Best regards,

Trackway


[edit] HARVARD REFS

The Harvard referencing system is perfectly permissible on the wikipedia. Why have you changed it to footnotes in the Spitalfields article? Colin4C 11:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What on earth is this

I agree. Disgraceful spam. Still. If you can't beat them, join them. --Tagishsimon (talk)

[edit] Help in Painting

Hi, I see that you have edited in the article Painting and that from your user box you are an administrator, so could you just have a look at this article again please esp. the category area, as I might have got a bit fouled up here. I'm still learning, as you can see. Your help would be appreciated. Cheers. Artypants 12:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Chris Fuller

An editor has nominated Chris Fuller, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Fuller and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 18:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help with an article

My article on Halogen Software was recently deleted and I have rewritten it taking into serious consideration " the neutral view point." Could you please let me know if you would be able to provide me feedback on my new writing. Thanks Kanata500 19:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks but...

I'm not sure of why you're pointing it out to me? One Night In Hackney303 04:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. You've probably already contacted the best person for that era, Domer48, and I'm not overly bothered about what goes on over at Wikiquote. I'm slightly busy with a rather extensive project anyway, a biography of Roy Johnston. Roy himself has contacted me and given me a link to an online version of his autobigraphy, details of which are available here. Wading through the equivalent of 576 pages on a computer screen is heavy going, plus I've got to find independent sources for what I can as well obviously. One Night In Hackney303 04:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Paul venter

Thank you. He is generally a very constructive contributor but he seems to have a very human side. - Kittybrewster (talk) 19:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Otto Beit

This edit summary is a personal attack. Please remain CIVIL. Continuation of personal attacks will lead to being blocked. I note you have blanked the discussion regarding image sizes. In that case, don't change another editor's decision to follow policy. Tyrenius 00:45, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

It is not a personal attack - no names are mentioned and it is a bald statement of fact - if you have some time, follow up the history of the pages and see how this particular editor frequently appears on pages while I am busy, and on a number of occasions blatantly ignoring "inuse" tags. Perhaps you should be leaving threats on her/his page instead of mine. I do not dog the footsteps of this particular editor, nor do I have any inclination to do so. If you have the authority to do something about it, then I suggest you look into the issue in detail and try to act objectively. Paul venter 02:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for that

Thanks for that Tyrenius. Left some information. Regards --Domer48 14:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In case you missed it

Here, and already dealt with. Thought it might be best to let you see it as well, given you're the lucky admin that gets to deal with the various warring factions most often. One Night In Hackney303 05:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for that.

Thank you very much for that, glad it was pointed out to me. I have sorted out the other page also. If you could look it over for me I would appreciate that. Thanks again. Regards --Domer48 18:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Didn't want to bother you when you've got the busy status up though. You've neglected to move the talk page though, and I can't move it because of the redirects. Those could be deleted really as well. One Night In Hackney303 02:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bit late for that

He's already on a 3 hour cool-off after repeatedly reverting the admin who left the last message. One Night In Hackney303 02:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

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