Talk:Twelve Olympians

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I've never read before that Demeter visits Persephone in Hades—I've only read that when Persephone has to spend time down there, Demeter mourns yet again and winter returns. The article on Demeter doesn't say any differen't—either it needs to be updated, or the story is reported erroneously here. Postdlf 08:00, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I have read somewhere that Demeter visited Persephone in Hades, but I can't remember where, and it was only in one story, in a book that contradicted a lot of things that I have read about Greek mythology. So I agree that it is probabaly presented wrongly in this article. marie16

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[edit] Athena succeeded Zeus

I never read this before (outside some bad TV show), source?

Me either... and I beleive it is factually untrue. I am removing it until it can be backed up Sotakeit 17:03, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The birth of Aphrodite?

Quoting the article: "The Olympians gained their supremacy in the world of gods after Zeus led his siblings to victory in war with the Titans; Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Hestia, and Hades were siblings; all other Olympians are usually considered the children of Zeus by various mothers, except for Athena, who in some versions of the myth was born of Zeus alone. Additionally, some versions of the myth state that Hephaestus was born of Hera alone as Hera's revenge for Zeus' solo birth of Athena."

I think Aphrodite wasn't a child of Zeus either? She was born from the sea when Cronus cut off Uranus' genitals and threw them into the sea. --Lareine 14:30, 8 March 2006 (UTC)0

From Plato's Symposium (180 d-e): ... there are two goddesses of that name, ... One is an older deity, the motherless daughter of Uranus, the god of heaven: she is known as Urania, or Heavenly Aphrodite. The other goddess is younger, the daughter of Zeus and Dione: her name is Pandemos, or Common Aphrodite. --VonWoland 17:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

If one were to try to attach a specific source for each statement in this article one would soon perceive what is too pat or downright misleading in this account. Some reading might be required. --Wetman 11:21, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Heracles?

I've heard nothing of Hercules being an Olympian, only him becoming god of strength upon death, but never an Olympian. Therequiembellishere 23:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hades

Isn't Hades one of the Olympians also?

[edit] Confusion over "Twelve Olympians"

This article is very confused as to what constitutes one of the Twelve Olympians. Olympian-dwelling god and the Twelve who sit on the heavenly council (in the manner of a tradtional Greek council of elders, cf. Homer) should be distinguished from one another. Olympian-dwellers include all the plethora of attendant gods from Hebe, to Themis, Dione, Leto, the Muses, the Graces, Eros, etc, etc. (as in Homer and Hesiod). "The supreme Twelve" were rather standardized in classical times, mostly following the rank suggested by Homer, but with a few localised variations. --Theranos 21:12, 30 December 2006 (UTC) This author doesn't know what he/she is talking about! It says that there are only three non-olympian gods, when I can think of at least 5 right of the top of my head. Go to [1] for a complete list. Seriously, there are thousands of them!