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[edit] rapifera?
The turnip (Brassica rapa var. rapa)
I thought the variation that we refer to as Turnip is called Brassica rapa var. rapifera? I accept the 99,9% possibility that I am wrong... sorry, my first time trying to write in a discussion page.
--Snufle 14:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Picture needed
We need a picture of the turnip root, since that's the familiar edible part anyway.
- Done! Although it's a a small turnip, taken with a cheap camera, moments before the turnip was eaten. It will do for the moment, but I'd be very happy if the picture was replaced with a better one. pjf 10:02, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The pics on my browser look like they are going over the text can that be fixed? user:andham2000
[edit] Ambiguity
The word turnip refers to several different veggies in different places, I think. If someone could clarify this, that would be very nice. Tuf-Kat
[edit] Turnips?
I moved the grocery store image here, because I believe those are beets.
[edit] copywrite
copied a small section off my site http://selfsufficientish.com for the origin so the copywirte belongs to me, referenced it by adding an external link at the end. Regards, Pekinensis 19:29, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Good! I thought they were very red turnips, but I also thought of the possibility they were a particular cultivar, or that my colour-blindess was worse than usual. --PJF (talk) 01:13, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Disambig
I'd like to make a clearer disambiguation here. I know the information is all present if you read it, but we can make it easier for the visitor. Hope no-one objects...--Doric Loon 19:29, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- There are several problems with the scheme you implemented which conflict with naming conventions, so I have moved the articles. The common name is preferable and B. r. rapa is the vegetable most commonly refered to as the turnip, further to call the page Turnip (Brassica rapa) is not strictly correct in terms of nomenclature. I have moved this page back to turnip and moved the disambig to the appropriate disambig location.--nixie 12:36, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Domain
This article doesn't know if it's about all of Brassica rapa, or only about the turnip. — Pekinensis 02:01, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I only had to make a few small changes to fix that. There is also now an article Brassica rapa. — Pekinensis 19:07, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Is it a root, or what?
The article appears to contradict itself on whether or not the swollen orb is the root. Please clarify, somebody. CGameProgrammer 00:27, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Plagarism
A large part of the _Culture_ section is taken without attribution from Project Gutenberg's version of
The Mirror of Literature, Amusement, and Instruction. Volume 10, No. 289, December 22, 1827 ( http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/11378 ).
The difference that the previous writer noted is between the section of the article that was written recently and the section copied from a source in the 1800s without attribution. Corprew 17:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Corprew
[edit] Language Structure
Until the beginning of the eighteenth century, this valuable root was cultivated among us only in gardens or other small spots, for culinary purposes; but Lord Townshend, attending King George the First on one of his excursions to Germany, in the quality of secretary of State, observed the turnip cultivated in open and extensive fields, as fodder for cattle, and spreading fertility over lands naturally barren; and on his return to England he brought over with him some of the seed, and strongly recommended the practice which he had witnessed to the adoption of his own tenants, who occupied a soil similar to that of Hanover.
Is this section a quote from somewhere? It seems rather oddly constructed ("among us", who? "the quality of secretary of State"), though not actually wrong. I realise it's not attributed as a quotation, but that may be an oversight; or, i think, it needs slightly reworking. Lindsay H. 18:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- I was just thinking that it read like a passage from the 1911 EB, but the article isn't in that category... Where'd it come from? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs) 21:45, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Turnip Recipe
Should we include one? Or perhaps a link? Open for discussion. Dfrg.msc 
10:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Feeble!
Those pictures have some really feeble turnips in them! Anyone got a picture of a proper, fully grown, turnip?! --Mal 06:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removed large block of text
I removed the following block of text:
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- Until the beginning of the eighteenth century, this valuable root was cultivated among us only in gardens or other small spots, for culinary purposes; but Lord Townshend, attending King George the First on one of his excursions to Germany, in the quality of secretary of State, observed the turnip cultivated in open and extensive fields, as fodder for cattle, and spreading fertility over lands naturally barren; and on his return to England he brought over with him some of the seed, and strongly recommended the practice which he had witnessed to the adoption of his own tenants, who occupied a soil similar to that of Hanover. The experiment succeeded; the cultivation of field turnips gradually spread over the whole county of Norfolk; and in the course of time it has made its way into every other district of England. The reputation of the county as an agricultural district dates from the vast improvements of heaths, wastes, sheepwalks, and warrens, by enclosure and manuring—the fruit of the zealous exertions of Lord Townshend and a few neighbouring land-owners—which were, ere long, happily imitated by others. Since these improvements were effected, rents have risen in that county from one or two shillings to fifteen or twenty shillings per acre (£10 or £20 to £180 to £250/km²); a country of sheep-walks and rabbit-warrens has been rendered highly productive; and by dint of management, what was thus gained has been preserved and improved even to the present moment. Some of the finest corn-crops in the world are now grown upon lands which, before the introduction of the turnip husbandry, produced a very scanty supply of grass for a few lean and half-starved rabbits. Mr. Colquhoun, in his "Statistical Researches," estimated the value of the turnip crop annually grown in this country at fourteen millions; but when we further recollect that it enables the agriculturist to reclaim and cultivate land which, without its aid, would remain in a hopeless state of natural barrenness; that it leaves the land so clean and in such fine condition, as almost to ensure a good crop of barley and a kind plant of clover, and that this clover is found a most excellent preparative for wheat, it will appear that the subsequent advantages derived from a crop of turnips must infinitely exceed its estimated value as fodder for cattle.
It appeared to be plagiarized from an excerpt of a book. Please do not readd any of this without rewording. Also, if you reword and readd, consider shortening significantly because a lot of this seems superfluous. Ufwuct 23:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Human Uses
The mention of the eating of mashed turnip with haggis and potatoes in Scotland is out of place as it isn't this type of turnip that is eaten- it is the swede or rutabaga or yellow/purple turnip that is eaten as 'bashed neeps' with haggis and 'champit tatties'.Ewan carmichael 07:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
