Talk:Tuchola

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Since autumn of 1920 thousands of captured Red Army men have been placed in the camp of Тuchol. These POWs lived in trenches. Famine, cold and infectious diseases killed tens prisoners daily. In the winter 1920/1921 POWs had a death rate of about 25% which was attributed to malnutrition, poor sanitary conditions, lack of fuel and medicines and physical maltreatment by the polish supervisors.

«From the moment of opening an infirmary in February, 1921 till May, 11, 1921 there was registered epidemic diseases 6491, not epidemic 12294, 2561 deaths» («Red Army POWs in the Polish POW camps 1919-1922», p. 671).

Lieutenant colonel I. Matuszewski, the head of the II department of the Polish Joint Staff, informed the military minister of Poland in the letter on February, 1, 1922, that 22 thousand of POWs were lost in the camp of Tuchol in all time of its existence. («Red Army POWs...», p. 671)

I removed it here, it seems to come from one of the propaganda statements that were recentely debunked by Polish and Russian historians. --Molobo 17:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I added source "Waldemar Rezmer, Zbigniew Karpus, Gennadij Matvejev, "Krasnoarmieitsy v polskom plenu v 1919–1922 g. Sbornik dokumentov i materialov"(«Red Army POWs in the Polish POW camps 1919-1922»), Federal Agency for Russian Archives, Moscow 2004 ". And in general the fact of containment of captured Red Army men in Tuchola is not challenged by anybody Ben-Velvel 23:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

If you have the book then you must've noticed that the numbers given are overall deaths of all Russian and Ukrainian prisoners of war held in all camps in Poland, not only in Tuchola. This was the biggest and the best known of the camps, but not the only one. There were eight more major camps, a dozen or so camps for civilian and non-combatant internees and a hundred or so minor camps. At the same time you're claiming (against the source you use as the backup) that not a single Russian prisoner had died in all those camps and instead all the casualties happened in Tuchola... //Halibutt 00:31, 29 May 2006 (UTC)