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Oy, ya beat me to it! ;) Emperorbma 02:59 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Hehe! And Akira approved of it personally ^^ -- Pipian
Wai~! I have been truly outdone! ^_^;; Emperorbma 06:30 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)
"In 2003, Tsunami Channel became the #1 comic of Keenspace after Sexy Losers moved to its own server. It held the number one position until Akira moved to his own domain. The motive for this move was partly from unpleasant remarks made by David Willis of It's Walky directed at Sexy Losers and its creator, Clay. Akira is known to be a fan of Sexy Losers, even drawing a crossover strip with the popular adult themed web comic."
What the hell is up with this? What did David Willis say about Sexy losers?
Edward Grefenstette 16:33, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
One quote from Willis: "I hope he [Clay] reads this so he knows how much I hate him." Rather nasty stuff. The original thread was deleted from the Keenspace forums, but the Wayback Machine may still have it on archive. Xuanwu 20:08, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] It's back
If no one's noticed. Tsunami Channel is back to regular updates and has resumed the storyline.
[edit] Junichi
I know that this has been moved back and forth between main characters and other characters, as well as adding subjective claims about the character that are not entirely true. While I understand that there are fans of Junichi, I believe they are far from a "substantial fanbase," (what with the large-scale support most people give Laika and Haruna, among others). In addition, the claim that Junichi will definately return is somewhat blurred, and I've added some text to that effect. Lastly, I believe he does not belong in "main characters" as he is not a recurring character in anything but fan-creations (unlike the other characters listed under "main characters"). Should he return (especially on a long-term basis), at that point he may deserve being classified as a main character. However, at this point (in canon) there is no sign of him being a significant character for anything other than the Haruna arc. I might be wrong on the "it is supposed" portion of his description, and thought there was a post proving it, however, I'd like to have a link before changing it back. -- Pipian 01:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Xuanwu
Where was "The motive for this move was partly from unpleasant remarks made by David Willis of It's Walky directed at Sexy Losers and its creator, Clay." cited from? All I can remember is the webcomic author (Akira) stating that he desired a space more reliable than Keenspace and also that he wanted to let other new and upcoming webcomic artists to be able to use Keenspace. I do not recall Sexy Losers playing a roll, but that may be my error.
Additionally, I cannot agree with the blatant defamation of two members while Xuanwu receives one line of criticism despite being the main impetus in the one+ year hiatus. I have removed the line with those two because it was charged and obviously biased. Don't drag forum politics into a wiki article. -Yansen, Feb 14, 2006
Actually, now that I think of it, the mention of pOnju member names is completely unneccessary. Why is Xuanwu allowed to plug not only himself, his fanworks, and his position at OO so blatantly on Tsunami Channel's wiki? Create an AtP wiki, please. If you made that, then you would be able to write more about AtP and (rabid loyalist) people like me won't edit your posts. No one would object if you had separate character descriptions, either, if you had an AtP wiki article, so long as you cited the source work as Akira Hasegawa's TsuChan. Hell, I wouldn't touch it--I swear on my honor.
(Personal attacks removed)
Well, if you're good at breaking down speech patterns, then you probably know who I am despite this alias. Good luck, if you're not.
--Yansen 07:47, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay, apparantly something about Junichi has ingrained itself into your soul. Junichi appeared for all of 12, yes, 12 comics. In one arc. He had as much character development as a summary on the back of a 4kids dvd.
(Personal attacks removed)
--Yansen 09:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC) PS, Unless you make a AtP wiki, I'll do it for you
- Actually, an AtP wiki entry would likely be merged right back into the TC page by the mods that be. The Wiki standards for what comics can have their own pages is quite clear (I know, I helped write them). Since AtP was a sub-project of TC, it must be on this page. When it's a subproject of OO, then it'll be mentioned on that page. But even I know that an independent AtP page would not meet the necessary significance guidelines in place. Please acquaint yourself with Wiki guidelines, including WP:WEB. Your personal attacks above are in violation of Wiki policy and have been deleted. (I admit my own earlier post that you edited was also in violation, hence why I have not restored it. Anger is not a good emotion to post from.) Xuanwu 06:50, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Alright. I've gone over the Wiki policies. I was wrong in bringing personal attacks to this talk page, I admit that, and I was wrong in suggesting the creation of a separate page despite knowing nothing of wiki etiquitte. I have noted the changes you've made with the VA project description, and I appreciate what you have added. I still, however, do not understand the Junichi issue. I would like to discuss it over e-mail if you wish to establish that correspondence.
Regardless, there are questions I have that (in my opinion) are neutral in nature. As one who has followed the TsuChan forums for four years, I confess to not knowing where the "second Haruna story arc" or Junichi's return has ever been hinted at by the author. Additionally, his description goes beyond the bounds of what was explored in the story. We see nothing of his physical prowess, and we have not been given any insight into Fuuka's abilities, to which his are compared. Therefore, I find error in his description.
His placement under Main Characters is another issue I would like to dispute. One reason is because of his frequency of appearance and another because of his time of appearance. Taking the current arc into consideration, would Fuuka and Laika's mom then also belong under the "Main Character" banner? Perhaps changing "Other characters" or adding a "Minor characters" section would be warranted? i.e. Onii-chan, Kotone, Haruna, Laika, and Konstantin would be under "Main characters" while characters with less involvement in the main plot are shelved under other categories, perhaps based on order of import to the main characters.
I believe it would be pointless for me to change anything currently on the page without consulting you first, so I leave it up to your discretion. We could, however, talk it over in e-mail or on this page. I sincerely appreciate your civility in the matter. --Yansen 04:13, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I would like to remind people that Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not Wikipedia is not a Soapbox, and hence, I question the validity of Xuanwu's consistent updates to some of his own self-promoting data (not to mention the consistent edit war over Junichi's location, which might garner a closer look at Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes Dispute Resolution). I've removed some of the self-promotion, and simplified the fan project data. It's really not THAT important to have a detailed history of these subprojects. After all, they are hardly the main focus of Tsunami Channel and are dead, as mentioned in the article. --Pipian 22:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
It may be amusing to note that Xuanwu is mentioned twice as much as Junichi in this article, a grand total of 8 times, which places him 4th in terms of mention, close behind Kotone. A reader skimming through the article might even come to believe he is a character of the comic... Edward Grefenstette 15:28, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Changes to recent edits
----Small Changes----
"*Fuuka is Laika's older half-sister who gave Onii-chan the first oni seal that Laika wears." - Clarifying language, as we that could be interpreted as it being her first seal where she might have worn a seal / several seals in the past.
"His rhetorical skills were sufficient to subdue an angry Laika," - Changed to make the sentence standalone better - Used language from "Haruna 50" thread (I think)
"She knew Onii-chan's father during the man's travels and it was from her that he learned much about the old Oni war." - Small grammar edit - People can learn from books, too - Nothing specifically states whether or not Onii-chan's father "learned much" from Laika's mom. As her explaination on "Laika 13" would suggest, she is more preschool teacher than historian.
"Unfortunately, some forum members unjustly attacked the series for being too unrelated, with several of them earning warnings from moderators due to the harshness of their critiques." - "Unjustly" charges the language in the sentence, suggesting opinion. The reader should be able to imply the nature of the attacks with the subsequent half of the sentence which clearly shows that the "attacks" were not of a tolerable nature.
----Changes (ie, removals)----
"Nabeshin-esque" - An afro is an afro is an afro. I've seen enough in real life to know that all afros are created equal as long as your hair can stand it. - The afro could also then be "Matsushiro-esque", as the father's design closely resembles the afro-bearing manager in the cooking anime "Yakitate!! Japan"
"... and his physical prowess, while untested, is likely among the best of any character..." - First of all, physical prowess is vague in that it does not specify strength, skill, etc. This, then, cannot be compared to other characters because there has been no gague of "any character" out there sufficient enough to compare one character against the rest of the cast. - Second of all, is something "untested" fit enough for a wiki entry?
"(a tribute of "A Class" bishounen is nigh unbeatable physical skill). He was last seen returning to Japan with Haruna's parents." - This reiterates a point that was just stated by the sentence before it, making it extremely redundant. As there is no reference for "A Class" bishonen, the physical skill attribute is questionable. - Not false, but it omits a point which the author of the series has repeated several times that he will not appear ever again; a point which was edited out on previous occasions. - As the previous edits made it clear that there seemed to be need for something the author mentioned about the character, then what precedent would information which the author did not imply in any way to be written into a wiki?
"*Arc Xia" - Though mentioned his last name was there because he had a last name, the convention is not consistent with the other names on the list. Please feel free to put it back in when the other characters have last names as well.
----Not edited (ie, discuss comments)----
"Under stress, she transforms into Oni-Laika (see below)." - Stress is a little broad. She could be stressed when Onii-chan slacks off on the project. She was most definately stressed at the begining of the "Laika" arc, although that did not boil over into a transformation until a Haruna x Onii-chan flag triggered it.
"She owns and operates the dojo where Fuuka and Laika grew up." - There has not yet been any indication that she operates the dojo herself, and there has been only speculation as to what skill she may or may not have.
"His powers utilize Chinese characters, requiring knowledge of the language in order to do his spells. (Arc is a Chinese-American, according to Akira.)" - This can imply that one must be of a particular ethnic group to know a language native to that group. While obviously not the case, his heritage has been shown to have little influence on his grasp of the Chinese language aside from two elementary characters. The extent of his knowledge, however, has not been clearly revealed, so no edit here. --Yansen 10:39, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fanstuff
can we get something stating its importance? I know it's very important to the TC community (hey, guys), but I think some other people are thinking its not so worthwhile. SyricTC 21:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hentai Project
Sooo, I think this article could benefit from links to the Hentai project. >>;--Avitar Diggs (a.k.a. Stormwatcheagle) 23:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Is there an article about it on wikipedia that you wish to link to? If not, I say no. Art is life and life is an art. 22:46, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Su-Cool
Even though Su-cool is only 12 comics, techincally it's in the Tsuchan realm, isn't it? Fephisto 20:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yyyyyes, I suppose it is. If you're going to write something about it, though, I'd make it very clear that Su-cool is not a major part of Tsuchan. If Akira Hasegawa is indeed planning to make more 'love situation' comics, it might be wise to just make a subheader by that title. Art is life and life is an art. 22:48, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
