Talk:Tropical Storm Doria (1971)

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[edit] Todo

More anything. Storm05 15:20, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey, it's not bad for a tropical storm in 1971. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 22:36, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Now what? íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 15:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Get more info. The article has hardly been touched since you first made it. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Here's an alternate damage pic for North Carolina, and public domain due to it being part of the NPS. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

This site has two New Jersey flooding pics that might be usable, due to the article being with the USDA (page 41 and 42). Might they qualify for fair use? Hurricanehink (talk) 05:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I would think so. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 14:54, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Is it B class yet? Hurricanehink (talk) 00:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
You bet! I just think it might need a few headers in the impact section. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 00:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Good idea. Hurricanehink (talk) 00:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] GA on hold

There's a few things that have made me place the article on hold. Here's my concerns:

  • The lede indicates that the storm was the "costliest tropical storm in the 1971 Atlantic hurricane season." Does that mean that the storm was the costliest tropical cyclone, or the costliest tropical cyclone that did not reach hurricane strength? Ambiguous.
  • Non-breaking spaces. "12 hours",
  • The first two sentences of the Storm history section are too short. Combine them.
  • ...and on August 23 it passed through the northern Lesser Antilles. Need a comma after the date.
  • The minimum central pressure quickly dropped, as well, and late on August 27 Doria reached a peak intensity of 65 mph (105 km/h) while making landfall..." same here: move the comma from after "as well" to after "August 27". Wikilink landfall as well. Consider whether "its peak intensity" is more appropriate than "a peak intensity."
  • "Effects from Doria in the northern Caribbean Islands or the Bahamas are unknown." A small clarification that Doria was still a tropical depression could be useful here. Also, saying something such as "After Doria reached tropical storm status..." after that would make the text flow smoother. Links help there as well.
  • If you use an abbreviated unit, such as "mm", try to use the companion conversion unit with an abbreviation as well. Having 1 ft (25.4 mm) is better than having 1 foot (25.4 mm), or worse, 1 foot (25.4 millimeters). Wikilink as necessary.
  • Storm tide = storm surge? Clarify.
  • Tropical Storm Doria dropped up to 3.85 inches (98 mm) of rain in Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport in Washington, D.C.. - double period at the end, and using "up to" makes it sound like it could have dropped less rain than the 3.85 in. Same thing for Wilmington.
  • ...resulted in 2.7 foot (0.8 m) above normal tides in Fort Henry. Sounds awkward. How about "resulted in tides 2.7 ft (0.8 m) above normal in Fort Henry"?
  • Wikilink "Coast Guard".
  • ...and wind gusts of up 73 mph (117 km/h) in Philadelphia. Grammar fixes needed.
  • Several rivers in the southeastern portion of the state experienced record-breaking flooding. - Add details in here. Some details were given about New Jersey, so for the sake of parallelism, some more info about the record-breaking flooding in Pennsylvania is needed.
  • ...Doria produced wind gusts of up to 54 mph (87 km/h) and a storm tide of 5.3 feet (1.6 m) above normal in Atlantic City. Try "and storm tides 5.3 ft above normal", as above.
  • Record 24-hour rainfall totals occurred in Newark with 7.84 inches (199 mm) and Trenton with 7.55 inches (192 mm). Try adding the date of the record here.
  • The rainfall also flooded two fire houses in Somerville with several feet of water: comma needed at the end of this clause, and before the reference.
  • ...a 50-year flood event. It seems like if it were added as an after-thought: try "in what was catalogued as a 50-year flood event" for more fluidity.
  • Storm tide reached 3.8 feet (1.2 m) above normal at Battery Park, while rainfall peaked at 5.96 inches (151 mm). Need "The" before the start of the sentence, or some other grammar adjustment. Also, try wording it as "where rainfall measurements peaked at 5.96 in...)."
  • The threat of the storm cancelled a baseball game for a later double-header between the Brooklyn Dodgers and the New York Mets. - did the storm cause the doubleheader, or was the later half of the doubleheader cancelled? Ambiguous.
  • Hartfort, Connecticut - do you mean Hartford, Connecticut?
  • The rainfall caused washouts to roads, landslides... did the rainfall cause washouts in roads? (Not sure, asking)
  • Sustained winds in Maine were generally around 30 mph (48 km/h), while gusts peaked at 61 mph (98 km/h) in Lewiston. Was this the peak gust in the state?
  • The aftermath section is too short. Expand it or collapse it into the impact section.
  • Remove the external link at the end, as it is being used as a reference.
Other recommendations
(GA status does not depend on these being fulfilled)
  • Add a picture to the infobox.
  • I had a hard time trying to figure out how you got the total damage figure of $147.6 million. I recommend adding a small, referenced floating table at the bottom of the NE US / Canada impact section.
  • Consider splitting the NE US / Canada section into New Jersey and Philadelphia, and Other NE states and Canada.

Titoxd(?!?) 06:18, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Got the first thing. Non-breaking spacing isn't a requirement so I didn't add them as meticulously as I would for an FA. Merged sentences. I've never wikilinked the units before... is that a requirement for GA? I couldn't find data for river flooding outside of New Jersey. All I could find was that river flooding occurred. I don't know the date for sure regarding the date when the 24 hour rainfall records happened. The writing was ambigious - the MWR says rains started August 27, but it doesn't say if the 24 hour record occurred then, from the 27th to 28th, just 28th, etc. Otherwise, I got everything. I can't find a good picture for the infobox. No satellite picture exists, and there (to my knowledge) no good or free impact pictures of the flooding. Perhaps the storm track should be the infobox pic? Also, the damage total was the U.S. total (per MWR) + the Canada total. Hurricanehink (talk) 19:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

All right, fair enough. I've passed it now. The units, no, they're not a requirement, but it's usually a good idea to do so in the first occurrence of an abbreviated unit, and it's a pet peeve of the reviewer... and the storm track works, but if something else is found, I'd switch it out. Titoxd(?!?) 19:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
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