Talk:Tritone substitution

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The last sentence claims "Tritone substitutions are a defining part of Coltrane changes", but I don't understand why they're related. Coltrane changes involve moving the key center by major thirds; they don't have tritone substitutions built in. You can apply tritone substitutions to Coltrane changes, but that's not any different from applying them to any ii-V-I progression.--Rictus 7 July 2005 08:03 (UTC)

[edit] Coltrane changes???

I agree completely with Rictus, "Tritone substitutions are a defining part of Coltrane changes" is untrue. You could put a tritone substitution into Coltrane changes, but it is is in no way a "defining part". This is a common misconception about Coltrane changes. I defy anyone to find me a tritone sub in the definative changes of Giant Steps or Countdown.

[edit] Article mergers

Tritone substitute, tritone substitution and substitute dominant all seem to describe the same thing, but using different words and illustrations. Someone musically competent should take whatever's valuable and make one article out of it. --Alvestrand 16:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I took a shot at it. -- ForteTuba 00:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)