Talk:Treaty of Nice (2001)

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Removed line claiming that the Nice Treaty amendment to the Irish Constitution would enable future Treaties to be passed without the need for a referendum. Such a claim was made during the Nice II referendum and denied by the Irish Government. If it had included that, the referendum would have been voted down by 80%+ of the electorate. Even if it got through with such a provision, public anger at not holding a referendum on any future occasion would have been such that no political party would dare to vote through a new Treaty merely by putting it through parliament, for they would be committing political suicide. (And Europe would have guaranteed that Ireland would block every subsequent Treaty without exception in anger.) It would have been a very very very stupid clause to have included. JTD 01:31 Feb 10, 2003 (UTC)


Suggest that this page could do with re-structuring. Content is good and generally NPOV, but the current structure intermingles straightforward factual descriptions of the treaty's provisions with various criticisms. Suggest three headings: (1) Treaty provisions [purely factual]; (2) Discussion of Treaty [or similar] [with criticisms etc]; (3) Ratification [pretty much as it stands]. If I get a chance, I might look at some of these reworks, but time is pressing at the mo. Toby W 10:35, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Irish ratification

When I added the note on the Irish ratification of the European Constitution (now moved to Irish referendum on the European Constitution), I said that there was a second referendum held on the Treaty of Nice with no modifications, yet someone subsequently modified it to say that there WERE changes to it. I just accepted that I was wrong, but yet here it once again says that no changes were made. The page (On the european constitution) continues to say that there were changes made so please see it, to understand exactly what I mean.

So were there or weren't there changes made?

[edit] Title

The article is disambiguated as Treaty of Nice (2001), yet there's no disambiguity notice at the header and the basic Treaty of Nice redirects here. If there's another such Treaty, it should be noted in this article's header, or the basic title should be made into a full diambig page. If not, why the parenthesis? Radagast 03:30, 1 January 2007 (UTC)