Talk:Treasure Planet

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The 3D vs 2D argument is so superficial. Does the fact that Pixar's films actually had a better story count for anything?67.150.209.17 05:42, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

• Agreed. That list is ludicrous, and reads like excuses being made by a defensive studio exec. I've added some of the counterarguments floating around and introduced the idea that people simply didn't like the movie. --Misterwindupbird 09:25, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

• Pixar may have better story, but Treasure Planet's story wasn't a horrible, and in my opinion better then a few of it's previous animated films. I liked the movie.

I think the argument is not that the film was awful, simply underwhelming, especially compared to the very high quality of Pixar's films and (some of) Disney's earlier stuff. It didn't get very many bad reviews, for instance, but most of the good ones were pretty marginal in their praise. --Misterwindupbird 18:42, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

The film was merely released at the wrong time as fantasy was in and classic stories were out, it would probably do better today after the astonishing Corpse Bride, it is entirely different

If you have sourced information about that (a quote or interview, even), it would be really useful. The whole "reasons for flop" section is mostly unsourced opinions and needs serious work. Though personally I have a major problem with the "fantasy is not hot" argument -- by that logic pretty much no Disney movie should have succeeded. It's not like we were in the midst of a talking-animals-in-Africa fad when The Lion King hit the market, and Hans Christian Anderson wasn't exactly sweeping the nation when The Little Mermaid came out. Frankly, in my opinion, it was a desperate and transparent attempt by a past-its-prime company to cash in on "cool" computer animation, and that's why it flopped. 24.81.13.220 19:24, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I took out the stuff about audiences not liking it (no source), and the metacritic reference, since shark tale, madagascar, and chicken little all got lower scores but did well. Pfalstad 19:58, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Ugh! 1.1 Video Games 2 It wasn't THAT bad. 3 Loss?

[edit] Ugh!

I took the liberty to remove this entire section until someone wants to make it sound non-illiterate.

[edit] Video Games

Different Treasure Planet games were released upon different video game consoles, and for PC Windows. There were three Treasure Planet games for the PC, Etherium Rescue, (others unknown for now). When all three were loaded onto the computer (or installed) a fourth game, Ship Shape, became available. McDonalds once gave away a Treasure Planet character figurine, or any of three previews of the games mentioned above with the order of a Mighty (Big?) Kids Meal. It has ended now. There was also another PC, Battle at Pyrceron (mispelled) which proved to be quite successful, as it got numerous good reviews. Treasure Planet was also released on the Playstation, Playstation 2 and the Gameboy Advance, each having different characteristics. The Playstation version was quite different from the Playstation 2 version, and the gameboy advance version had some added story elements probably to add more gameplay levels. The 2 Playstation games weren't very successful, but the companies gave a good effort

More merchandise information soon, we are sorry for the errors; and it seems as if some sections have been unfortunetly deleted.

[edit] It wasn't THAT bad.

I really would like to know why this movie did so badly. I agree that TP could have been better, but I think that of all Disney movies. They're all watered down for the kids. It didn't deserve the treatment it got.

I can't believe it's the biggest box office bomb in HISTORY! Not when Hulk and Harry Potter 2-4 are inconsistent, storyless, difficult and/or painful to watch and yet do better in theaters than this film. TP was entertaining and exciting, no more watered-down or weak than any other Disney film, so what was so different about it?

Some kind of reason for its failure should be offered. Is there any way to get reliable reasons for why a movie fails, or is speculation the only thing to go on?

It couldn't have been the vague story; the Harry Potter movies and the Matrix Trilogy are still making profits in spite of that. We already know the CGI/cell-animation blend has nothing to do with it; other movies have used it and did not fail this badly. Was its failure really as simple as release timing? Perhaps some well-thought speculation could be useful to help answer this, but is there a real source? Point is, the biggest box office bomb in history needs a special section to address how it got this honored title. --Tagenar 21:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm agree with you!I loved TP!I think what they're very exxagerated with these critisism! User:ComicSansGirl

I, too, really enjoyed TP (especially the "I'm Still Here" song). I didn't know it was such a flop until I read this article. What a shame... Gozel ^talk 00:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

It was a victim of 9/11. Much had to be cut or rewritten to avoid sensitivities that were running high at the time.

[edit] Loss?

The article claims that TP resulted in a loss of about 125 million. Can this be explained a little better? If the film grossed 109 million but cost about 180 million (40 for advertising and 140 for production costs), then isn't that losing about 70 million? Also, does the gross include DVD sales and merchandise? From the numbers I can see how the studio lost quite a bit of money but losing 125 million? This really needs to be explained better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.221.96.202 (talk) 22:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC).