Talk:Traffic Circle, Long Beach, California
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[edit] Proposed Move
I am proposing moving the article to Los Alamitos Traffic Circle so that the article title matches the name of the traffic circle. -- Hawaiian717 23:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
04JUL06 I changed the introduction of the article to include both names for the intersecion: locally and unofficially LOS ALAMITOS TRAFFIC CIRCLE, but officially the LONG BEACH TRAFFIC CIRCLE. I already added a redirect for "LOS ALAMITOS TRAFFIC CIRCLE" and I think it's best to leave it under LONG BEACH TRAFFIC CIRCLE, as that is the official name recognized by the city of Long Beach and the state of California. Hulces 12:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, ok. I'm withdrawing the move request, I wasn't aware that it was just an unofficial name. The previous version of the intro paragraph, before I changed it, made it sound like Los Alamitos was the official name for it. -- Hawaiian717 16:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, judging from the consistent use of the Los Alamitos Traffic Circle on the http://longbeach.gov website, that is probably the official name (the CalTrans website uses both names). On the other hand, a Google search shows that name is very rarely used. The Long Beach Press-Telegram newspaper website NEVER uses that name. The Long Beach locals, as the LBPT website shows, mostly just call it the Traffic Circle, so the current name is the most appropriate. There is one problem I see, however, in that the Traffic Circle is also the unofficial name for the community around the Long Beach Traffic Circle (although mostly by real estate agents).
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- note: The website for the firm that did the redesign of the traffic circle says that it has the highest traffic volume of any traffic circle in the US. I'd like to find some confirmation of that info before I add it to the article.
[edit] Is the caption right?
I used to live right by the circle and drove thru it every day. I moved away a few months ago, but I am 99% certain that the last picture on the page, which claims to be the Los Coyotes entrance, is actually the PCH entrance approaching from the southeast. Am I right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.65.240.196 (talk) 04:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
- I think that you are correct. You can see to the left on the other side where PCH starts it's rise into the Signal Hill area. My personal opinion is that the last two photos do not do a very good job of showing the Traffic Circle. What's really needed is a photo from the top of one of the nearby buildings because I don't think you can get a good view from ground level.
- Another problem is that the first and third images on the page are questionable as far as meeting Wikipedia image use policy and will probably get deleted sooner or later. BlankVerse 12:08, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Traffic Accidents in the Circle
Being born and raised in Long Beach, I'd frequently heard horror stories of accidents that occured in the Traffic Circle. I'd like to see some figures if possible that show the accident totals both before and after the redundant traffic signs were posted. It should also be noted that a common erroneous rumor about the Circle is that one of the members of The Beach Boys died there, which is not true. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GrimGambit (talk • contribs) 17:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC).
- In doing some research on the Traffic Circle, I found a CalTrans publication that talked about big drop in accidents after the last reconfiguation. Unfortunately, the numbers were pretty vague. Since I was hoping to find some more concrete data, I didn't add it as a reference. If you'd like to help out and find a good reference, that would be be great. BlankVerse 13:51, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
