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[edit] Release date of Toy Story 2

The release date of Toy Story 2 is mentioned, and it says it was released on November 19, 1999. I happen to remember seeing the previews for it and the release date was November 24, 1999. I remember because it came out right after my birthday, so I'm going to fix it right now.


[edit] This article needs improvement

This article is too heavy on plot and too light on what matters:

  • History
  • Making of
  • Distinctions
  • etc.

People want to know where the idea came from, negotiations with Disney, technological advancements of the movie. Was it John Lasseter's idea? Was it made as part of the deal with Disney? What were some early concepts of it? What problems did they have? How did it launch Pixar into the spotlight? What distinctions and honors does it have (e.g. first feature length 3d film by Disney)? Mazin07C₪T 22:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


I can think of nothing more absurd and chimerical than the notion that debian is a part of popular culture. Arvindn 03:26, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The plot only describes the beginning, hence no spoiler template is needed. Is you would like to add details, please feel free to do so. — Stevey7788 (talk) 4 July 2005 06:29 (UTC)

What animated short(s) aired with this movie at any time? This includes in theters or on DVD/VHS. --Wack'd About Wiki 16:52, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't believe there were any - my VHS doesn't have any extras. Squidward2602 15:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't remember seeing one when I saw it in the cinema in '96, either. BillyH 19:17, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Wasn't there the short with the two lamps and the famous star ball that they bounced on?

That was Luxo Jr., aired with Toy Story 2. BillyH 14:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
ABSOLUTLY NOT!!! There was no short film attached to the Toy Story film, on DVD or in "theters".

[edit] digital - analog - digital ?

The film is currently available on Special Edition DVD, with digitally-restored picture and remastered sound. ... this movie was produced digitally, therefore there wouldn't be the need for a digitally restored picture, only if they were so dumb not to keep a single digital source of the movie...

--Abdull 22:12, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I think you underestimate the space needed to store all the high-resolution rendered frames from the movie. For a 90 minutes movie at 24fps, you have 129600 frames. Each frame may have taken something like 4 or 5 megs each. The result is roughly 500 Gigs... Sure in 2006 they are selling 500 GB HDs, but in 1995 it was an astronomical amount of space. The whole [World Wide Web] content from 1995 would probably be much less than that. In those days the idea of storing high-res frames as they are rendered on the computer itself didn't make much sense. Frames were erased from the computer HD and memory as they were printed on video or film.

Video tapes were probably the medium used to store and play draft renders, while the final outputs were printed directly on film. The editing process was probably done using traditional movie clipping methods.

[edit] Wow

Is it just me or is the plot summary pathetic? It is definitely not up to the standards of Wikipedia.

[edit] Sid

Sid really needs his own page.

No. He doesn't.--Suit-n-tie 04:17, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, he does!!!--ANNAfoxlover

[edit] Factual Errors

The fictional Pixar movies show varieties of many various things that could not happen in real life.(Such a Sid not being able to create a 'mutant' lava lamp.)

Boy, I've got a big one for this section: Did you know that in reality, toys can't move around and/or talk? Seriously, though, this section seems nitpicky and just plain silly, especially considering that it only has one entry. It's an animated film; obviously it can break physical and logical rules that the real world cannot. There isn't a section in the Wile E. Coyote article that discusses the unlikeliness of Wile E. surviving a three mile drop onto jagged rocks or getting blown up by dynamite. I vote this section off the Wikipedia. 138.69.160.1 18:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

(Just place it in the goofs section)

[edit] Mr. Potato Bully

Does anyone think that Potato Head was being mean to Woody, when he was the first to blame Woody for Buzz's death as well as thoughout the movie ?

Also on a more ironic note do you think that Potato Head should be the main character of Toy Story 3 ?

I agree with you. Mr. Potato Head was much nicer in Toy Story 2. 71.38.209.207 22:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Article?

What are anybody's thoughts on trying to improve this article to FA standard? Naturally, the first step would be a peer review, then we can work on it. It would be nice to emulate the success of the Final Fantasy articles and have several Pixar articles featured. RMS Oceanic 10:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's anywhere close to a featured article, or a good article. There's an opening paragraph and an infobox, which is good, but it goes downhill from there. The plot section is probably too long (I haven't read it, I haven't seen the film), and other than that, there's one two sentence section about awards and the rest of the article is filled with bulleted lists, which should be changed to prose. Furthermore, there's exactly one reference in the entire article. - Bobet 19:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andy's Absent Dad

As has been noted in trivia section, Andy's father is never seen or referred to in either Toy Story film. I'd go further than speculate and say that it is obvious that Andy lives in a single-parent household. As to what happened to Andy's father, I believe there are enough clues, especially in Toy Story 2, to indicate that he was somewhat older than Andy's mother and that he died a year or two before the time of the first movie. Read on...

Considering the movies are essentially contemporary (ie, set in late 1990s), Woody is a rather old-fashioned type of toy. This is confirmed in Toy Story 2 where we see Woody on the cover Time magazine from 1958, establishing that his line of toys date from the fifties. Andy, therefore, cannot have been given Woody from new. This is confirmed in TS2, when Al tries to buy Woody at the yard-sale. Andy's mum tells him that Woody is "an old family toy". So who did Woody originally belong to? It would have to be Andy's father, who, being a kid in the fifties, would be in his mid-forties by the time Andy was born. He must've held onto Woody through his early adult life and then handed him down to his son.

Since Andy has a younger sister who is about two, we can presume Andy's dad was still around up until at least two years before the movies (there's no indication that Molly is anything other than Andy's full sister). Also, from the generally cheerful mood in the household, we can be sure Andy's dad didn't depart recently. How do we know he is dead, rather than just absent? It is Andy's mum who rescues Woody from Al at the yard-sale and seems rather upset at the thought of selling him (going so far as to lock him in the cash-box). Woody must have had some sentimental value for her too, which would be unlikely if he'd belonged to a wayward spouse who'd up and left her.

Seen this way, there is another reason why Woody is so special to Andy. Not only is he an excellent toy, he is also a link with the father he misses terribly. --Oscar Bravo 10:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

What the HEck are you talking about?--Suit-n-tie 00:33, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

It's literary analysis. OK, so TS is just a movie for kids, but it is rather exceptional in many ways and it may well stand the test of time. Future generations may study it as an important, seminal work. If you guffaw at this, take a look at Talk:Hamlet - there, they debate Polonius' nationality and whether Gertrude knew the cup was poisoned - speculations within the universe of the drama. --Oscar Bravo 07:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I get where he's coming from, and if this was a forum for discussing Toy Story, I'd agree with him. However, this is Wikipedia, a site based solely on fact. There has been no official source declaring Andy's family's status, so any comments regarding his father is speculation, original research or POV. RMS Oceanic 19:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure - which is why this on the Talk page, not in the article :-) --Oscar Bravo 07:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Ron Pickles quotation (plea to Jienum)

I have removed again the offensive phrase ("What are you staring at, you bald-headed Jew Prick?"). Perhaps before putting it back, you would like to read why:

This page is about a movie that is very popular with children - my own kids watch it constantly. Therefore, many kids will visit this page. Children have a right to spend their childhood in blissful ignorance of the nastiness that permeates the adult world so, in that spirit, I don't think this page is the place for quoting racist, offensive lines from an adult movie.

You are very clever to have found this important reference involving Mr. Potato Head but please ask yourself, do you really want to share it with seven year-old kiddies. Please, do the right thing...--Oscar Bravo 11:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

one thing. Its Don Rickles. I don't know who Ron Pickles is. That's all.--Suit-n-tie 17:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, I think that comment belongs in the Trivia Section, but toned down a little. How about, "Don Rickles is also insulted this way himself in his previous film, Casino, by Joe Pesci."? Jienum 15:49, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

No problemo! Thanks. --Oscar Bravo 07:31, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


....there was bondage pic instead of poster...i fixed it. :\

Yeah, I just was about to say something 'bout that. Lemmy12 14:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Barnyard

In the film Barnyard, there is a bratty boy who likes cow-tipping so the cows "boy-tip" him while he's asleep and he gets a fear of cows like Sid gets a fear of toys.

I don't think this is really a reference to Toy Story. Nonetheless, I'll leave it alone, because I can see why whoever put that there did. Lemmy12 17:39, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but regardless of whether you can see it, if there is no reference to support that, then it should be removed. If it is only the opinion of the person that put it there, then it is original research and should be removed. —Doug Bell talk 19:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Tires

"Lightning McQueen's tires in Cars, and those of the RC car in Toy Story, say Lightyear, a parody of Buzz Lightyear and Goodyear Tires."

Lightning McQueen's tires do say Lightyear, but RC's tires say "Goodtire".


[edit] No plot?

I had some time, and I wrote a plot for this plotless article. I hope it's not to long and it's good enough. Someone respond. I LOVE GOOGLE!!! Thank you. --ANNAfoxlover

It's me again, ANNAfoxlover. I just added the plot to this article, but I need some help separating it into paragraphs. Someone do this for me. Thanks.

[edit] Video Games

What are the three video games based on Toy Story? I know just about one: Toy Story: Activity Center. Tomer T 14:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

There is also a Game Boy Color Game I know of. I think also that there was one for the original Playstation, but I'm not sure. 68.211.9.202 23:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
There was a Toy Story 2 game, I can remember. For the N64 and probably the PS. Doppelganger 00:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pop Culture & Trivia

References to the use of gas station Dinoco in both Cars and Toy Story can be found in both the POP Culture and the Trivia sections. The reference in the Trivia section is poorly written (capitalization). I say someone remove it from there as all the other Cars/Toy Story similarities are listed in the Pop Culture Section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.127.70.220 (talk) 18:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

I'll raise you. This is mentioned in Cars' page, so it should be removed from this page entirely. I think the book/comic/tv show/film making the reference should contain information about it, rather than what is being refered to saying where it's refered to in. Finding Nemo has a similar problem. RMS Oceanic 19:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First or second?

The Cassiopéia article mentions some controversy over whether Toy Story was in fact the first fully computer-animated film:

Pixar Studios made the heads of the main characters from clay sculptures that were digitized with a Polhemus 3D wand), thus excluding its status of a 100% computer generated movie, while Cassiopéia was made from scratch and made entirely from a virtual enviroment, from the modeling to the texturing. This difference between both films is defended by Brazilian animators who consider Cassiopéia as the first CGI movie, even being released a few months after Toy Story.

Does anyone know what a "Polhemus 3D wand" is exactly? Esn 06:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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