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[edit] Torii and birds

If they're meant for birds to rest on why is there only one image of a torii with birds on it in the commons? It doesn't seem like torii serve their function very well. --SeizureDog 21:23, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

It's just that birds haven't yet managed to realise it. :) chery 17:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Google Translate's version doesn't seem to mention this theory, or only with great obscurity (Japanese's a hard language indeed :)). But maybe your ja-1 is enough to grab some meaning out of it? Our article may need some correction. chery 17:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

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Ive heard a few times that walking through these gates is supposed to protect one from evil spirits or that they cant go through the gates. What about that? --D-Gen 15:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

The account of Amaterasu being coaxed out of a cave by cooing birds and sumo wrestlers strikes me as being almost definitely apocryphal. Call me crazy.

Just, you know, the version I've heard involved her fellow named deities, no anonymous giant wrestlers.

This completely fails to jibe with Japanese mythology.--Darksasami 22:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Note that the Sumo bit appears to come from this site, which appears to be a personal interpretation of religion and not a definitive source. I've tagged that bit with a citation needed note. It sounds dodgy to me. Tony Fox (arf!) 05:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

very true. the mythology is completely different and deals with an erotic dance to coax out amaterasu. amaterasu is then transfixed by her own beauty by a nearby mirror.

Given that the stupa at Sanchi in Madya Pradesh, India has a gate that is very similar and was built in the Third Century BCE...the gates at the stupa are called "Torana" there is a chance that the Torii are an idea borowed from Buddhism