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[edit] Bulgaria

I wasn't vandalizing the article. It just looked worse the way you did it. If you put a small paragraph about each time period and put a link above it leading to the main article, then it will be a lot better.

[edit] The Epic Barnstar

I, Fire Star award you this Epic Barnstar for your consistently excellent recent contributions of articles on Hittite and other related history.

[edit] Ottoman Empire

There is nothing wrong with the paragraphs being short. I placed the cleanup tag mostly because the style and grammar needs to be improved in many sections. I —tried to explain on the talk page. I started some editing but found the task overwhelming with the small amount of time I have. --Yodakii 15:22, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Detail is certainly important, but so is style and grammar. I think a short well-written article is still better than a long, hard to understand one. In any case, I'll try to fix what I can. --Yodakii 15:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the work on Geography of Turkey. I've found that all but a couple of countries have geography articles that are just a list of facts, so I've been using this Library of Congress source to expand all of them. Unfortunately, the source isn't always neutral, and doesn't have entries for every country. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-10-26 16:25

[edit] I oppologize

I may have been a little harsh with my comment, I thought you were someone I knew of in the past elsewhere with a similar alias, which you obviously are not. Thanks for your answer, it satisfy me. Fadix 20:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anatolia

"Please, you do not have to change the Anatolia to Asia Minor. It is an international definition. If you like you can put your argument in the discussion page."

The two geographic names (one Greek, one Latin) are pretty much interchangeable and I guess both are international, aren't they? No big difference.

"I was wondering, if you dare to create page, that will collect the migrations in&out of Anatolia through out time. Maybe you can develop a timeline with referances... That would be ver usefull, and we can put a link to your page under demographics of Republic of Turkey."

I don't have the full picture about all the many many waves of migrations, but there's probably already a timeline under History of Turkey somewhere. All I know is that many peoples have passed through and left their genetic footprint in the contemporary population. :)

--Big Adamsky 22:18, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I just noticed that you've deleted my entire contribution to Turkey. I urge you to put it back as soon as you can. If you change or delete a sentence or a paragraph you need to state why and then replace the text with something better (if you can). I'll check the page sometime soon to see whether you've improved anything on that particular page. --Big Adamsky 22:29, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

No, what you have done is you've deleted every word of what I contributed as if my contribution were irrelevant or untrue or misplaced. And apparently you haven't read (or understood) what it was you deleted. In stead of deleting you should try to contribute or clarify. I'll deal with this later, when I have the time. --Big Adamsky 23:07, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

You're right, I should calm down and listen to your reason for deleting, without writing in something better yourself. So.. what was your reason? And why do you refer to my contribution as "vandalism"? Are you going to explain your actions at all? --Big Adamsky 00:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How to put legend below the grid on the bottom

Hi Tommiks,

you are the one that creates the most sophisticated timelines on wikipedia. I need your help on the German Wikipedia. I want to put the Legend on the bottom of the grid, but it wont work. Can you help? --Saharadesertfox 14:40, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Template that needs the legend on the bottom of the grid:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Rheinischer_Münzverein

[edit] Lifestyle of the Ottoman Empire

What is going on this page: Lifestyle of the Ottoman Empire? -- Perfecto 08:04, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Tommiks, this page will be deleted at the moment someone familiar with policies notices it. WP:NOT specifically proscribes articles which are image galleries. Of my watchlist, Gallery of Socialist Realism was deleted: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gallery of Socialist Realism. So I suggest you to upload the images into wikiCommons instead. You can refer to images from there in wikipedia with exactly the same syntax. mikka (t) 01:46, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ottoman Empire

I am truly amazed of the job done by you!

I noticed that the template:History of Ottoman Empire in some articles was on top, in others is on bottom and started moving them all on bottom. But then decided that you probably know better where it should be. From my experience, horizontal templates are usually at the bottom. If someone wants the article series template on top, he makes it bertical and laces on top right. Please look around and make a proper decision. mikka (t) 01:42, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

• Hi, I went ahead and changed the template:History of Ottoman Empire to be more like other templates of this type (narrow, for display at top right of page). It looks better this way, I think. --JW1805 (Talk) 20:22, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Adnan Menderes.png

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[edit] Image:Kurtulussavasi.gif

The map is fine though, please enlarge it. It will be more accurate.

[edit] Middle Eastern theatre of World War I

Please see Talk:Middle Eastern theatre of World War I#Rename? --Philip Baird Shearer 10:46, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Poetry of the Ottoman Empire article

Tommiks, while I admire your work on timelines and think you have done a fine job on them in general, I also think that the timeline used on the Poetry of the Ottoman Empire article is far too cluttered to be of much use, and that the table that was already there (which I have moved closer to the timeline so as to unclutter the beginning of the article) would probably serve better to give a sense of the historical progression of poetry in the Ottoman period. Let me know, on my talk page, what you think about this idea. —Saposcat 10:20, 9 February 2006 (GMT +02:00)

[edit] Pictures of Republic of Turkey

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[edit] Re: Turkish literature peer review

Hello. I've noticed that you have an interest in Turkish literature, and that is why I am leaving you a message. I have recently entirely rewritten the Turkish literature article with a view to getting it up to Featured Article status, and have placed the article up for peer review. If you could possibly take the time to look at and review the article, I would greatly appreciate it. If not, thank you for taking the time to read this message. Saposcat 10:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Armenian issues

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[edit] Request: Ottoman Empire

User Miskin is making redundant additions to the article, hurting its quality. Here it is (diff. in bold letters):

"Despite its extremely multi-ethnic character, the Ottoman state was commonly known in its days as the Turkish Empire."

This is the introduction sentence to the article. I explained to him/her every recognised empire in history is multi-ethnic therefore that is a redundant addition to that sentence making it look like it was written by an elementary school kid, as if all empires aren't multi-ethnic and Turkish Empire is an exception. Please revert the part to maintain quality. Regards.--Kagan the Barbarian 09:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

If Turkish Empire is the English word then what is Ottoman Empire? I know you did that with good faith but it looks even more redundant now. Miskin very well knows it is redundant and unnecessary, don't give in to this. The old form of the paragraph was:

"The Ottoman Empire (Ottoman Turkish: دولتِ عَليه عُثمانيه, Devlet-i Âliye-i Osmaniye, literally "Ottoman Sublime State"), commonly known in its days as the Turkish Empire, was an imperial power, bordering the Mediterranean Sea, that existed from 1299 to 1922."

And it was added by Thomas Bloomberg, an apperantly neutral user, who is citing only facts. Do a Google search you get 2,000,000 hits for Turkish Empire. Please revert it to that version.--Kagan the Barbarian 10:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how much I confused you, but you definitely lost me with that last message. I was just asking you to change the first paragraph back to this:

"The Ottoman Empire (Ottoman Turkish: دولتِ عَليه عُثمانيه, Devlet-i Âliye-i Osmaniye, literally "Ottoman Sublime State"), commonly known in its days as the Turkish Empire, was an imperial power, bordering the Mediterranean Sea, that existed from 1299 to 1922."

Ottoman Empire and Turkish Empire are both the same thing and both are English; it is redundant to say Ottoman Empire (In English: Turkish Empire). I've seen many Western sources, Italian, Spanich etc., where it is regarded as Turkish Empire. Anyway I can't revert because I broke the 3RR and you are probably gone by now, I'll do it later.--Kagan the Barbarian 12:57, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. I wasn't aware of the separate article which focuses on the politics of the Ottomans. In any case I'll make an effort to improve and expand the article according to some unbiased sources that I have under my possession. Miskin 20:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I thought you should know

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fadix/evidencepage

The question is why? If you wanted to participate in the edition of the Armenian genocide page, why havn't you said so? Why have you used socks insteed? I wasn't expecting you to do something like that, now I just don't know of what to think about you.

Tommiks, there are few things you should know, and I advice you to read another time the merging test, since you are a grad student and seem to be good at programming I guess you know what a regression test is. While I have not included the third part, since it includes much of text materials, I thought this was enought for you to come clean, which basically it wasn't.

If you pay attention, you will see that this is not about you having exams and not being able to contribute, but rather those three users which will cover the holes. If you pay attention to the texts I have bolded you will see that a regression test will yeild a p<0.05. I think you already know what I am trying to say, but still for the sake of 'assuming good faith' I will try to explain you this.

I really first thought that all this was Coolcat doings, the layouts and stuff etc. I knew that the one that was doing it was not a dumb and that probably a checkuser based on IPs will not yeild any results, and it was apparent that the one that was doing it was faking his English, which was also admitted by Tonny. Slowly I have started this from zero, searching and searching, I have viewed all tha active editors of Ottoman related materials here and Turkish Wikipedia, I have uncovered Nafiz, which I thought was Coolcat, but after intense work, I have started having doubts, because it was as if the pro was not Coolcat but another user. When I checked the statistics of Erik Zatche EasyTimeline, I by mistake found that this design was probably not originating from Coolcat but that he had barrowed it from someone, since two users were using that design you and Coolcat and that most complex versions were worked by you. So, like you see I was not after searching about you, I ended up there because I have realised that I was being wrong all along, while Coolcat and you were working in tandem, you were the brightest between the two of you(I am not trying to to underestimate Coolcats intelligence there). Then, I had the briliant idea of merging contributions, I did that with various users, I thought that no one would be obsessed enought to sporadically contribute in various articles with various usernames and that a merging would show heterogenouty, the user for sure will make mistakes. When I did that, I quickly learned that while there is some form of communication between you and Coolcat beyond Wikipedia talk page, Coolcat inclusion in this merging was problematic, from a series of eliminations only you matched, and this again has nothing to do with your lack of time.

There still were few problems with that, and it is Coolcat uses of similar edit summeries, the note about 'not everyone has new tecnology' when reducing the size of an image was problematic, since Coolcat was editing for this reason. The answer came when I have read something from you, to the effect that you yourself didn't have a high resolution monitor and that not everyone had one. This was it, in fact in some way or another, you were the one having this idea of reducing resolutions not Coolcat, Coolcat was just the barrower there. So, the edit summaries could have been explained from this, also I have noticed that Coolcat was barrowing expressions and style from many members, started with your own layouts.

Now comming to the merging test, I think that this would be a very good complement to the checkuser test for many reasons, because only this way was I able to conclude what I have concluded. If you don't mind, pay attention again to that page. In January 27, Karabekir makes his last edit for the day, no edits in January 28, you then appear in January 29, and continue the work of Karabekir, as you say, fx formats. You make your last edit of January 30, in Turkey, the next day, Karabekir reappear and finish what you have left. Each time you disapear, Karabekir reppear and continue your own work.

On January 3, Karabekir disappear, you reappear and continue your work, on January 4 after a minor edit on the Middle Eastern theatre of World War I, you disappear, Karabekir reappear and answer in the talk page of the same article. On January 5, before disappearing you edit Aftermath of World War I, Karabekir reappear and use the talk page of the Middle Eastern theatre of World War I. And here I am not talking about the content of your edits which clearly present a correlation of near 1. On January 6, Karabekir edit World War I, you appear then for the Template:Timeline of campaigns during WWI of the Ottoman Empire, after you disappear again, Karabekir reappear editing the Middle Eastern theatre of World War I (fixing the minor format).

This continuity is repeated again and again in the entire process by the three usernames.

But if you don't mind, let me highlight some other constatations. Karabekir started editing the Armenian genocide article on Febuary 27, 2006, on March 3 he made repeated edits, then he made a mistake that gave him away, let see what it was. March 3, 2006 22:48, Karabekir made an edit deleting temporarly the Turkish position section [3], it was in fact to reorganize it, we understand this after it has been reintroduced after working on it, 20 minutes after, they were reintroduced by pieces, NOT by Karabekir but you Tommiks [4], [5], [6]. You probably made the mistake, because you probably had different browsers each configurated with different user names and set proxies, while you were making those changes you did not realise that it was made under your Karabekir alias. But, this was not it, Ottomanreference too interceded in such a series of edits. First, Ottomanreference was registered Febuary 17, 2006, the same date when after 4 months of silence from the Armenian genocide article, Coolcat started editing. What is interesting is that Ottomanreference started editing the Armenian genocide article the same exact date that Karabekir started editing it (Febuary 27, 2006), Karabekir has made an edit, a little over half an hour after, Ottomanreference makes an edit [7], continuing what Karabekir has started, when we check his contributions, we understand why Karabekir by mistake continued with his other alias, since he had to login in his other alias to make other contributions in other articles. Tommiks, Ottomanreference AND Karabekir few times have made common mistakes, the three write 'grammar,' 'grammer,' the three have already used the word 'paragraf' insteed of 'paragraph.' For example see: [8], [9], [10]. (see summary) Both Karabekir and you have made the exact same edit summaries, example, the claim of making things easier to read as pretext: [11], [12].

Those are few examples Tommiks of my research, and don't worry, you are not the only implicated, other people using socks are too, one user for example that I also passed the test of merging has been exposed using by socks and not by me.

You know, everyone make mistakes, not just you, I really first thought that Coolcat was behind that, and I was wrong.

You will read the rest of my report in this next week, you will see that those evidences I have provided are just some which I decided to present you here. RegardsFad (ix) 00:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Either you haven't read what I wrote, either you are doing that on purpouses Tommiks. Your answer has nothing to do with my post in your talk page. This is not about copyedit. This is about your login leaving and another comming just after and continuing the work you have left, and this for few days, then that login leaving and you comming back continuing the same exact work. Not only Karabekir and you have worked in the same articles, some VERY specific, but that there is a continuity between both users would convince the most skeptical person, in fact, it was first a Turk that suggested me to merge you while I was previously attempting with Coolcat and other users. Not only Karabekir has identicial edit summeries, not only both of you have made the same exact proper mistakes like writting 'paragraph' 'paragraf,' not only there are continuities between your presences and his, but there are things that just don't fool, example you working on World War I related articles and then after you disappear Karabekir comming back and continuing with that. Besides like I have previously said, one much telling mistake of yours was when Karabekir deleted temporarly the Turkish position section to organize it and minutes after you reintroduced them organized. I believe you when you say that you use student softwares, but like I am sure, any such softwares will yield the same result. I just hoped you would come clean, but you haven't. I just hope that I won't find other logins as I will be trying to close the gap for previous contributions too. Regards. Fad (ix) 16:59, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Help me, please

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