Talk:Tommy Sheridan

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Contents 1 Expelled? 2 RSL/Convenor 3 "Catholic Trotskyist family" 4 well known...Trotskyist family..? 5 NPOV: Edits by Press officer of Solidarity

[edit] Expelled?

The page says before leaving Labour. Wasn't Sheridan one of those _expelled_ for being a "member" of militant? -- Finlay McWalter 12:29, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Also, the page says active in the Militant Tendency inside the Labour Party. This will probably sound odd to someone not familiar with the term "Militant Tendency", so I'd suggest "...the Militant Tendency movement..." or "...the Militant Tendency faction..." or something. I've not put it in myself as the question of whether 'it' was a 'thing' at all was a tendentious matter. -- Finlay McWalter 12:39, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It was a separate organisation. See Militant Tendency and entryism. Secretlondon 12:42, Nov 10, 2003 (UTC)

Well, that's kinda my point. The "kinnockites" said "it's a party within a party" while the "militants" denied this, saying "we're just a random bunch of people who happen to think the same thing". The Militant Tendency page says faction which seems to be a neutral expression (IMHO). -- Finlay McWalter 12:45, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

[edit] RSL/Convenor

I presume that RSL stands for Republican Socialist League - but this is not explained in the article.

Perhaps someone could confirm and add note in text?

Also, I had a look at the SSP's site from the link at the bottom and noticed it says that Sheridan is the convenor of the SSP.

Hmmm.... didn't he resign to be replaced by Colin Fox. Or is the SSP site just out of date?

Camillus^(talk) 02:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Revolutionary Socialist league in fact 193.51.149.216 15:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Catholic Trotskyist family"

Does this make sense? I would have thought Trotskyist implies Marxist implies atheist implies not Catholic. Does it mean "family of Trotskyists from a Roman Catholic background" or something similar?A Geek Tragedy 16:30, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes it does make sense. Have you heard of a Christain Jew or an Christian Arab? My point is clear. The UK does not demand atheism of it's Karl Marx admirers. (82.44.79.85 01:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC))

The comparison with a Christian Arab or a Christian Jew isn't relevant. Jews and Arabs specifically belong to racial/ethnic groupings, not to religions or ideologies. Judaism is the religion of the Jews, which a Jew may chose to follow, or not. A Jew raised in orthodox judaism is still a Jew regardless of his subsequent religious beliefs. There is no greater inherent conflict in being a Christian Arab than a Christian Celt. It is true that the UK does not demand atheism of its Karl Marx admirers, but you will find that the Roman Catholic Church disapproves of Communism in its various forms as an ideology, so the two belief systems are not compatible.

Thank you, unsigned. This is roughly what I meant alothough I was thinking more about marxism not liking religion than the other way around. Materialism is pretty central to marxism (if I understood Marx right) and there is the stuff about "opium of the people". A Geek Tragedy 16:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

In Scotland or in Ireland, being from a Catholic family is important, whethe ror not you believe in God - it means you are part of the group which is discriminated against 193.51.149.216 15:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC) I wasn't aware anyone had questioned the significance of Sheridan coming from a Roman Catholic family. However, I'm glad POV statements such as yours are confined to discussion, rather than the page itself. I am unaware that being a Roman Catholic in Scotland will mean a person suffers discrimination - it certainly doesn't in politics. As for Ireland, I was under the impression that Ireland is officially Roman Catholic, so where's the discrimination in that? Or do you mean Northern Ireland, and it's just that your kneejerk responses lead you into inaccuracy? JFM

[edit] well known...Trotskyist family..?

What is all this about? Well known by whom? I have never heard of any other members of Sheridan's family who might be considered well known. Certainly not well known in politics. So, I would contend that it is false to suggest that he comes from a well known family of any kind.

[edit] NPOV: Edits by Press officer of Solidarity

I have reverted the edits made by Jim Monaghan assuming that he is the same Jim Monaghan referred to in this article http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1879927,00.html Ms medusa 17:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I have again reverted similar edits made by JimMonaghan Ms medusa 21:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)