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Contents 1 Leykis 101 2 Radio history? 3 Listen Live doesn't work 3.1 Direct Link 4 educational background? 5 Creating a new article titled: The Tom Leykis Show 6 Libertarian disclaimer 7 Radio career and The Tom Leykis Show sections 8 Crystal Gail Mangum edit war 9 Profanity in Edit Comments 10 Banned user 11 Removed sentence 12 Wine aficiondo 13 This article sucks 14 POV Header 15 Needs Sources 16 Why the redirect from DTB? 17 That one phone call on November 3rd During the live show in Portland 18 Sue from Arizona 19 Leykis 101 Secction

[edit] Leykis 101

As of January 2007, a substantial "Leykis 101" wiki article was deleted and redirected to this Leykis bio. Why? Tom's "Leykis 101" contains some of the most valuable content in radio today. That Leykis 101 article had so much sage advice from Leykis that it deserves its own article, or at the least it should be included at bottom of this bio. What happened? Was this vandalism?206.170.106.40

I did some checking, it looks like the old Leykis 101 article pretty much sucked, was unsourced and was a possible copyright violation, Since "Leykis 101" now redirects here IMO there should be a special section on this page that describes Leykis 101 and lists a few examples of the rules. Raitchison 16:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Radio history?

Is there anyone who knows Tom's radio history? This is important to add. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.123.224.180 (talk • contribs) 05:38, May 30, 2004.

Ugh. I looked at the content of the diff and not the context. Not sure it was vandalism now. Someone please review carefully. - Triona 01:23, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

My revert definantly appears to be premature, could someone back it out and clean up the anonymous submitter's copy? - Triona 01:26, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I removed the Lykis 101 tips since that makes the page seem POV. I believe his radio history is posted at his site though. Grice 20:16, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Personal notes from the show: He refused to go to his own father's funeral, which caused his mother to stop talking to him. 8/25/05 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.158.113.58 (talk • contribs) 17:30, August 25, 2005. (originally made in the article)

I remember hearing him on WLUP AM1000 in Chicago, subbing for Steve and Garry, I think. Early 90's.

[edit] Listen Live doesn't work

I was trying to listen to the Tom Leykis show on the web. But I couldn't because the Listen Live button on KLSX's website doesn't work. Does anyone know how to correct this problem? Oct.10.2005. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.251.135.124 (talk • contribs) 15:23, October 10, 2005.

[edit] Direct Link

Use your Windows Media Player compatible player or enter the URL in your web browser:

http://tuner1.dc1.sonixtream.com/playlists/fmtalki/fmtalkiKLSXFM.asx

ENJOY —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tastes like lead (talk • contribs) 05:38, October 16, 2005.

I'm listening to KLSX's website right now as I type this. Thanks a lot for the link! Oct.25.2005. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.251.135.125 (talk • contribs) 19:01, October 25, 2005.

Why would you do that to him?! DEC.13.2005. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.63.71.65 (talk • contribs) 18:41, December 13, 2005.

[edit] educational background?

Does anyone know what Leykis' educational background is? Did he go to school? If so, where? At times he seems quite knowledgeable in certain fields. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.140.35.2 (talk • contribs) 21:47, December 13, 2005.

He has stated on his show that he went to college but dropped out for financial reasons. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.81.80.172 (talk • contribs) 23:40, April 16, 2006.

[edit] Creating a new article titled: The Tom Leykis Show

I'd like to "separate" Tom Leykis the person and The Tom Leykis Show. There are so much more informations can be added to the show article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tastes like lead (talk • contribs) 09:23, December 21, 2005.

Go ahead. —Kenyon (t·c) 05:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Libertarian disclaimer

I added an appropriate disclaimer to the idea that Leykis is "libertarian," on the basis that he supports authoritarian legislation such as prop 187. A real libertarian would not support the authoritarian approach, but would instead support the discontinuation of the prime attraction to illegal immigration--socialistic free entitlements. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.124.31.221 (talk • contribs) 03:03, April 8, 2006.

[edit] Radio career and The Tom Leykis Show sections

The paragraph about The Tom Leykis Show under the Radio career section should be merged into the section about the show. There is no reason to have two sections about the same thing. I'll work on it eventually if nobody else does first. —Kenyon (t·c) 05:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crystal Gail Mangum edit war

Ok, to put this thing to rest *hopefully* for good. Her prior criminal record from 3 years ago has ABSOLUTELY no relevance as to the alleged rape case at hand. Someone is obviously trying to push an agenda to try to tell us that just because she has a criminal record, that she's lying about her side of the story.

This is an article about Tom Leykis, not Magnum, it should be sufficiant to say that he revealed her name as the alleged victim in said case, to keep the article centered on Leykis himself and not shift the focus to irrelevant matters.

I had suggested that if one wants to make a Wiki record of her case, then someone should start a Crystal Gayle Magnum entry on Wiki. I was then told that the attempt failed. That does not make the Leykis article a de facto dumping ground for all kinds of data on the case! It simply means whoever is trying to post Gayle's record is s--- out of luck for now.

As to the relevancy, user 71.141.9.99 has now admitted that there is a question as to said relevancy of the record (he basically said to let the reader decide), though his conclusions based on that were incorrect. If something is not verifiable, including the relevancy of said criminal record, then it SHOULD NOT be in Wiki.

-EmiOfBrie 18:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

second EmiOfBrie's comments.

Including the alleged identity also raises WP:V problems.

From the official WP:V policy:

"Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, and then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources. Exceptions may be when a well-known, professional researcher in a relevant field, or a well-known professional journalist, has produced self-published material. In some cases, these may be acceptable as sources, so long as their work has been previously published by credible, third-party publications. However, exercise caution: if the information on the professional researcher's blog is really worth reporting, someone else will have done so."

Tom Leykis, by his own admission [1], is not a journalist. At this time, a search of Google News, 4,500+ news sources, returns zero hits on the name he gives. Currently, Leykis' self-published material does not meet the official WP:V policy, as proven above. Abe Froman 18:10, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, either way, the Leykis article is not a place to dicuss the scandal (I was not aware her name was still not officially given). The correct article to post facts about the scandal is here, and of course its talk page would be the place to discuss it. -EmiOfBrie 18:13, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

There are WP:V problems with publishing the name in its own article. See above. Also, I find publishing the government database records to be WP:OR, because no reputable source has yet published the victim's identity, we should not find it ourselves. The passage should not be included. Abe Froman 19:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

But the point I'm making is that all we need mention is that Tom threw the name out there, with a small sentence to say why the name is newsworthy. Whether Tom is right or wrong at this point is moot, I'm just saying that outside of that one statement mentioning why the name is newsworthy, we don't need to dump any more personal info on said name into an article about someone else who was not involved. Note the precedent set by the other 3 names. Example: no one felt the need to mention that Vili Fualaau and Mary Kay LeTourneau got back together for a bit after she got released, and to mention that would have been off-topic as it has nothing to do with Tom Leykis. I hope you see where I'm coming from here. -EmiOfBrie 22:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC) (PS - corrected the header for this section)

[edit] Profanity in Edit Comments

Unnecessary. Review Wikipedia:Civility if there is ever any doubt before posting. Abe Froman 20:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Banned user

Various IP addresses, such as User:71.141.6.148 have been editing here. Please note that this is banned user Amorrow, about whom Jimbo Wales said (second post in the thread), "block on sight, revert on sight". This person is not allowed to use Wikipedia. Please help to revert any postings made by this user. -GTBacchus^(talk) 06:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed sentence

I removed the following sentence:

Some other his advices (like to avoid the pregnancy trap) are almost unanimously agreed upon by almost all men while many women have reservations about them.

Reason being because it's not particularly clear about what this means and whatever it means, it doesn't sound true to me. I think most men would agree, it's not wise to get a woman pregnant if you are not intending to start a family but so likewise many women would not want to great pregnant if they did not want to start a family. Many men equally would feel it would be wrong for a woman to get pregnant to 'trap' a man, but again so would many women (perhaps less then with men, but still I think the vast majority would feel it were wrong). I expect there is some discrpency in the opinions of how common such behaviour is, but this discrepncy is probably not that great. There is probably also some discrepnacy in that I expect men are more likely to assume if a women get pregnant she is trying to trap the man whereas a woman might be more likely to assume it's an accident (which they both have to be responsible for) but again this discrepency is probably not that great. So in the end, whatever the sentence is trying to say is not true. Unless someone can improve the sentence so it's easier to understand what it means and make it more accurate (preferbly with a cite), it should stay removed. Nil Einne 13:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wine aficiondo

"An avid Dodgers and Kings fan, Leykis may be thought of as a hot dog-and-beer kind of guy by his loyal audience. In reality he is a wine aficionado who spends his free time reading Barron's Magazine and watching CNBC."

That sentence needs to be changed. Not only are the two definitions vague, but they are stereotypical. Reading Barron's and being a win aficionado are not two mutually exclusive qualities. He has stated several times on his radio show that he has season tickets to Kings, now unless you believe he is lying he is an avid sports fan.

[edit] This article sucks

I'm going to slash some of the crappy text out of it, that should make it slightly less crappy. --Xyzzyplugh 19:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Some of it I am putting back in the Leykis 101 article, which I am going to rename to something more appropriate when I get around to it. It should be called Tom Leykis Show or some such thing. --Xyzzyplugh 19:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV Header

I've taken out the POV "Tasteless styles" header and merged its content with the previous section. NeoFreak 10:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Is that really POV if he calls them tasteless on the show? —Kenyon (t·c) 15:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Actualy, no I suppose not, but it needs to be identified as being labeled as a "tasteless send off" on the show by Leykis otherwise it sounds like an editor's POV. NeoFreak 19:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs Sources

Most of this article has no citations and could realy use them. If the original research template is a better fit, please put it in at your discretion. Carterhawk 03:51, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why the redirect from DTB?

DTB redirects here. Why? Loganberry (Talk) 22:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

If nobody answers this, I'm going to remove the redirect, since nothing in the article explains what "DTB" might mean. Loganberry (Talk) 08:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

It stand for "dump that bitch." I could be wrong, but I believe it's a Tom Leykis coined phrase. It's definately part of 101.RWgirl 00:24, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] That one phone call on November 3rd During the live show in Portland

some girl in arizona called in about how she killed her bf with his own gun, while being questioned by lycus it seemed that she wasent charged with murder yet and not trialed... Tom told her that they had recorded her phone number and location and would report her to the local police department. eventually tom offered a reward for her conviction... can somone write a formal thing on the main page *obveously more professional then how i wrote it lol* but its definitly worthy... --Emperor of the United States of America 06:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sue from Arizona

Is there a place where we can find that recording?--64.121.58.43 02:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Leykis had it on his website for awhile. I don't know if it's still there. If you subcribe to the Tom Leykis Podcasts look for the show he did in Portland at Barracuda on 11/6/06. Hope that helps. RWgirl 00:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Leykis 101 Secction

There was previously a separate article for "Leykis 101" which was deleted for various resasons. "Leykis 101" now redirects here and this article does contain some info on 101 however it's not laid out clearly.

IMO there should be a new section for Leykis 101 that describes what it is, some of the key points and a few sample rules Raitchison 16:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)