Talk:Timeline of 14th century Muslim history
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Nominal phrases changed to complete sentences in the present tense (through 1354); deleted redundant location information (e.g., "In the Ottoman Empire, the Ottoman Turks capture So-and-so...") (also through 1354); linked Ruknuddin (1301) to Ruknuddin Kaikaus (speculative link at the moment) to preemptively disambiguate; Marinid empire changed to Morocco; changed Chughills empire to Chagatai Khanate per Mongol Empire; changed Dava, Kunjuk, Kubak to Duwa, Konchek, Kebek per [1], [2], [3] (the latter spellings seem more common in Google searches as well); Khudabanda Ul Jaytu changed to Oljeitu per [4] and [5]; Zayan, Hamuw changed to Zayyan, Hammu per [6]; Abu Rabeah Sulaiman changed to Abu'l-Rabi Sulayman per Marinid (more Google hits than Abu '-Rabia as well).
What I'd like to see changed: Any "In the So-and-so Dynasty" changed to "In (modern-day area)". The Khilji "empire" is really a dynasty, not an empire of its own, but I don't know for sure if one can say that that empire can be said to be in India alone (i.e., I don't know what other areas it might encompass). Same with "Tughluq Empire" vs. "Tughluq Dynasty". Many more names need to be straightened out and/or standardized, and then linked. Also, I need to finish points 1 and 2 above. --Skoosh 20:36, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
The timeline for Ottoman Empire for 14th century contain dates, which are not accepted by the authoritative Turkish historians. In addition there are important dates of events that are omitted and there are few events that cannot be recognised by reputable Turkish historians (or other historians of Ottoman empire either). I would suggest that Chronology given by Inalcik [1973 pp.207-209) should be the basis for the dates given here since all the Turkish historians agree with it.
Given this, the following dates given should be changed to the true dates given there: - 1331 Ottomans capture the city of Nicaea (Iznik).
(Not 1327 as given. The state was not Empire but a pricipality still and the city is known as Iznik by the Turks then and now)
- 1336 Ottomans capture the city of Nicomedia (Izmit.)
(Not an Empire and the name of the city to Turks is Izmit)
- 1345 Ottomans annex the principality of Karesi.
(Not 1336 as given. It was not an Empire. Karesi was a principality [Beylik].)
- 1352 Ottomans go across the Straits to Gallipoli in Europe to help the Byzantine Emperor and do not leave the territory they have occupied.
(This is a milestone because the Ottomans are in a territory in Europe for the first time. It is missing from your dateline.)
- (All those stated with respect to date 1361 do not fit with Inalcik (and Turkish) chronology. In 1359 the Prince Murad, son of Orkhan, starts a series of conquests on Thrace including Tsouroullos (Chorlu) and Didymoteichos (Dimetoka). In 1361 he conquers Adrianople (Edirne). He is not the ruling Sultan yet and does not make it the capital yet; only later Edirne is made the capital. Note that the city is Edirne in Turkish; the Byzantine name is Adrianople and not Hadrienus as stated.) - 1362 In Ottoman state death of Orhkan and succession of Murad I.
(Not in 1359 as stated. Not an empire yet. Must distinguish Murat I from three other Murad. Turks call Murad I. Hudavendigar.)
- 1363 An Ottoman army surprises and defeats a Christian crusader army at Battle of Maritza.
(Note that the date is 1363 and not 1361. The army is a crusader army of Serbian, Bulgarian, Romanian and Hungarian elements under the command of the Hungarian king; not all the Christians. The name of the battle is Maritza (named after the River Meric). Turkish historians call the battle 'Sirp Sindigi (Surprise Raid of Serbs)'.
- Note that Byzantines do not contribute to the Battle of Maritza. The Byzantine Emperor does not declare it's being a vassal in 1363. In 1346 during the reign of Orhkan the Ottomans had started to interfere with internal affairs of Byzantine Empire by Orkhan marrying the daughter of the Emperor; then in helping the Emporor against Serbian invaders of Selanik and another Byzantine Emperor helping Orkhan with the Byzantine navy in order to save Orkhan's son from the Genoese captivity.
- 1368 The Ottomans annex some parts of the Bulgaria and sign a treaty Bulgarian King for it to be a tributary state of Ottomans. (Not 1371 as stated and not annex all of Bulgarian Kingdom.) - 1371 The Ottomans sign a treaty with the Serbian Despot for Serbia to be a tributary state. (This is not stated at all. Again, there were problems with dating this treaty.) - 1389 Ottomans are victorious in the Battle of Kosova but the Sultan Murad is assasinated by a Serbian. Beyazit I (called Yildirim) acceeds to the Ottoman throne. (This is missed altogether. It is important since it ends the Serbian rule. It should be noted that the present predominantly Muslim semi-state of Kossova was named by Yugoslavs after this battle.)
- 1391 Ottomans capture Skopje (Uskup) and raid northern Albania. - 1393 Ottomans annex Danubian Bulgaria. - 1394 Ottoman incursions deep into Greece; conquest of Thessaly and raids into Morea. - Ottoman military expedition against Hungarians and Wallachia and Wallachia becoming a vassal state. - 1396 Ottoman Sultan Beyazit I defeats a big Christian crusader army at the Battle of Nicopolis.
- When did the death of Sultan Sikandar Shah of Delhi occur? Here it's stated as 1395 but elsewhere on Wikipedia its stated as 1393.
