Talk:Time-based currency

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The following discussion relates to when this article was on VfD, which it no longer is

  • Time Dollars time-based currency
    • Delete - advertisement. If removed, its mention should be edited out on List of economics topics as well. Ed Cormany 03:07, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep. One of a number of barter/trade economic systems. And the article doesn't sound too advertorial, IMHO. -- Finlay McWalter 03:12, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure because I'm not sure this is verifiably used as a barter/trade system. Daniel Quinlan 03:26, Nov 12, 2003 (UTC)
      • I remember listening to a radio show about alternate currencies and stuff, and I'm positive they mentioned Time Dollars (and in a way that didn't make it seem at the time to be a commercial product). A brief google for the expression seems to show that it's in common currency (sic) in a largely generic sense. [1] -- Finlay McWalter 03:54, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
        • This specific term seems very connected to one person which gives me a lot of pause. If the article was about "time bartering" (probably not the right term, just an example) or some more common generic concept, I'd vote to "keep" in a second. Daniel Quinlan 04:07, Nov 12, 2003 (UTC)
          • If it survives VfD, it should go to cleanup (breathless-POV, copyedit) -- Finlay McWalter 05:03, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep, somewhere. This one does seem like a fairly well known time bartering system and if so it would merit its own article. I suppose that means that we may need a page on time barter systems with this as one of the systems it links to. JamesDay 08:27, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep. Unless there is already an article on Time Banks/Time Banking then it should be a redirect. Well known bartering system - similar to LETS but using time as the unit. 193.131.186.150 12:51, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
      • We already have a couple, linked off Local currency. If kept, logically this would be another case. -- Finlay McWalter 13:22, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
      • Keep and link to Local currency. Time Dollars is a well known and well established form of alternative economics, well desrving of a wiki article. Should be removed from VFD forthwith IMHO quercus robur 19:53, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)
      • Keep, though it may need cleaning up for POV and/or self-promotion. Alternative money systems are theoretically interesting and links are likely to grow. seglea 22:42, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep. Interesting. Martin 18:56, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep, but put on Cleanup for removing the POV. Andre Engels 11:39, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep, but I think the Time Dollars redirect is questionable since it was advertizing and we should delete it. Daniel Quinlan 22:44, Nov 14, 2003 (UTC)
      • I don't see how the 'Time Dollars' reference is 'advertisng', certainly it isn't any more. Time Dollars are as 'real' as LETS, and a recognised form of alternative currency, it's quite likely that somebosy wanting to know about alternative currencies might type in 'time dollars'. Can'rt see any reason to delete the re-direct. quercus robur 14:35, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)
      • Hmm, I disagree (on Time Dollars). Do you want to list it seperately? Martin 01:32, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • This article didn't look advertorial at all to me. The only company tie-in was in a link at the very end, and the overwhelming majority of the article was taken up by text. Wiwaxia 04:22, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • Now listed on cleanup. Angela

There's a notice concerning an neutrality dispute listed on the article, but I don't see anything about it after the article was removed from VfD. Can anyone explain where and why this article's neutrality is disputed? - Scooter 06:23, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Just the comments by seglea and Andre above. If you think it's fine, I'd remove the dispute, since they haven't given any real reasons. Martin 18:59, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hrm. The article Time has a link to Time is money which redirects here currently.. Wouldn't it make more sense to redirect it to Time value of money, which is an actual discussion of the monetary value of time?

Not to mention that the phrase has really nothing to do with this article... Novium 04:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are there 'unequal' time dollars as well?

The article is stating that time-dollars are equal value time-exchange devices - one hour for one hour no matter what the nature of the activity is. Are there any time-dollars that are not equal time-value exchange (for example, one hour of basic work is one time-dollar, but one hour of legal advice is more that one time-dollar?)?

That's my main objection to the flat wage system: in a full employment economy (and I believe all economies should be full-employment), it leaves no incentive to expend the time and money needed to get an education and increase the value of one's work. NeonMerlin 18:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

The picture of the Ithaca Hours shouldn't be on this page. Ithaca Hours are not a time-based currency at all, in the way time banking is. Ithaca Hours have a fixed exchange rate to the US Dollar (1 Hour = 10 USD). Also, they are issued as a fiat currency, with no formal backing. The term 'hour' was chosen because 10 USD at one point was considered to be one hour worth of work. OakTree 21:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Works great

I printed out some time currency that I use between my girlfriend and me. When she needs help on her term papers she pays me with it. I can then purchase labor from her with them, whenever I feel the need. It works great. But, we do have to negotiate because different kinds of labor aren't comparable if you're only looking at time. But it's a good way to keep track of things to make sure your significant other is not taking advantage of you.Anarcho-capitalism 18:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

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