Talk:Tim Bradstreet

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[edit] Tim Bradstreet

(Section archived here from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics]]) Steve block talk 19:23, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi everyone. I havent actually joined the project yet but I thought that a short article on artist Tim Bradstreet was well overdue. I created an article about him. I've never done this before so I'd appreciate it if some of you could go over and check it out. There's a lot of significant artists and writers that have no articles/just a stub dedicated to them. I'd be grateful if you could make your suggestions here. That way I can get used to making corrections/using the right format and - therefore - become a better contributor. This in turn may lead to my writing more and better articles. posted by User:AbhimanyuDas

First up, welcome. Yeah, there's a lot of comics related topics without articles. At the moment I think we're all bashing away in our own little areas of interest, so it's hit and miss as to what is covered. Second up, it's considered polite to sign your comments when you post to a talk page, doing so using four tildes, ~~~~.

As to your article, it looks like a cut and paste of copyright text from the bio at Bradsheet's homepage. Information from other sources has to be rewritten, you can't just cut and paste. I think this article needs either work to move the text to a form distinct from its source or listing as a copyvio. Sorry to jump on your toes here, its just that Wikipedia has to protect itself from charges of copyright violation.

For further info on wikipedia, see your talk page where I've posted a copy of the welcome message I got when I came here. I think there's a commitee who hand them out but since you're here and I'm here, you might as well get it from me. Steve block 11:02, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the welcome. With regards to the bio info, I asked Tim Bradstreet himself for input on the article and he said I could use his bio. He msged it to me himself along with a couple of links. Would this still count as a violation. Does it have to be taken off or reworked extensively? Can't I attach a copyright Bradstreet line underneath? Also, its not cut and paste. I did rework quite a bit of it and added a paragraph.

You can't copyright material on wikipedia, have you looked at any of the links in my last comments? See Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ for more on copyright. Anything placed on Wikipedia can not be marked as copyright. Placing text on wikipedia means it is either public domain or the person writing it agrees to release it under the GNU Free Documentation License. As for your reqorking, I've seen people get called on using the same two words as a source does, and your rework has left far more than that intact. I'm inclined to just list it at Wikipedia:Copyright problems and let them deal with it. I think once a copyvio is in the system its supposed to get deleted anyway. Anyone else know the score on copyright violation? Steve block 19:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok, well, I have permission from Tim Bradstreet (author of the original bio) to use the text. What is the process for him to agree to release it under the GNU license or just to agree to have this text up here? I'm going through the links you sent me but its slow going and sometimes a little confusing. But I am reading them. So forgive me if the answers to the above questions are in there somewhere. I just havent reached them yet.

Please don't forget to sign your comments. :) I believe you can send this: Wikipedia:Confirmation of permission. Note that this information doesn't just exist on wikipedia, it is used by many other sites and can be used for many purposes once it is released. Steve block 22:40, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unattributed fawning

I removed this text:

He counts directors Guillermo Del Toro (Blade 2, Hellboy), Frank Darabont (The Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile), Clive Barker (Hellraiser, Nightbreed), and Jonathan Hensleigh (The Punisher) among his numerous admirers.

I think if this is going to be in the article it should be attributed or cited. Qaz 14:45, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Time Problem

I removed this text:

Current projects include more movie posters, conceptual art for film and video games. This fall, he will be creating covers for Bad Planet his co-creators on this title being Steve Niles, Thomas Jane, and Lewis Larosa. Bradstreet also intends to see his character Gallows and the story of Red Sky Diary realized on the big screen.

I took it out because the way it it written it is going to go out of date or it is about things that might happen or could happen. Most times it is best to only talk about things that have happened already in an encyclopedia. Qaz 14:57, 19 September 2005 (UTC)