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[edit] Re:Empire Earth

Thunderforge, I would like to thank you for your clean up of the Art of Conquest. To be honest, I think you done a good job on helping create an article which has the Neutral Point of View. Thanks a lot! InGenX


Nice work on the Empire Earth pages. I would like to add some excerpts from a posted history from a long time player of the multiplayer game. The history is located here. If you think this is a good idea let me know. Thanks. EE Fan.

Since I can't figure out who you are (There's no user page for "EE Fan") and you didn't sign your post, I hope that you will see my message here. I think that the EE page could definitely benefit from some history about the game. However, I'm cautious about what value the history the player you referred to can provide. It seems to me like it's just about his experiences playing this game, which don't really belong in an encyclopedic article (just as my or your experiences wouldn't belong either). However, I'd really like to be pleasantly surprised if you can come up with something of real value from this (maybe something about Sierra's tournament that was hosted?). So, I'd say go ahead and put something up and be bold. After that, we'll decide if it should remain up there. Thunderforge 03:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


Sounds good, I'll do my best. Thanks again.

[edit] "Justified and Ancient" etc.

Many thanks for your reviews and constructive feedback for The KLF song and album articles. Your comments are appreciated. I fully understand and accept your concerns about coverage and stability.

Regarding the comprehensibility, it was nice to be reviewed by someone with no preconceptions of the band or their work. The KLF were, to understate things, a very bizarre duo, with loads of odd recurring themes and a taste for controversy. The KLF main article explains this in depth, but currently its "satellite" articles do not go into the same level of detail. This is, I guess, fair enough, much as a maths article such as Hurwitz's automorphisms theorem does not explain what an automorphism or a group is. In other words, there's a hierarchy. But the specialist maths articles can be found through only a handful of very relevant articles, whereas Justified and Ancient can be reached through Tammy Wynette (for example), which is potentially confusing. So that's is a good point well raised. On top of more detail, those articles need signposts to the deeper explanations in The KLF article. I'm not sure these comments apply to The "What Time Is Love?" Story, however: this is a more specialist article, currently only linked in the prose of "What Time Is Love" (and other than prose, only in The KLF discography and in album chronology infoboxes).

The non-neutrality I also accept, though less willingly, because in creating the articles we've been making use of an excellent on-line archive of media articles. The quotes that we've used are representative of the articles from which they're drawn, and the spread of quotes represents more or less everything of relevance from the archive. But because of The KLF's anarchic and provocative ways (frequently trying to subvert the music industry), they enjoyed a mainly favourable reaction from the music press to most of their work. And the music press are not the public at large. The articles will benefit from this being pointed out.

Apologies for the lengthiness of these musings. I've also added them to the Talk:Justified and Ancient page. Do you mind if we return for your opinions prior to resubmission?

Thanks again for valuable and thought-provoking feedback. :-) --Vinoir 23:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I've updated Justified and Ancient as per most of your comments (and countered your "neutrality" and "newness" concerns). It's just been renominated. There's probably a few days to go before this gets reviewed - in the meantime it would be appreciated if you could give it an informal second look, including my rationale for renomination on Talk:Justified and Ancient. Thanks muchly. --Vinoir 10:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good articles

Well, over a long period of time, I've done quite a few of these similar type of celebrity articles. I didn't think to submit them until now. Right now, all the ones I've done are basically there - six have already been passed, I think most of the rest will too. I don't see much reason to take them down, they've been getting reviewed at a steady pace. This isn't really a competition - so the more good articles the merrier. Besides, you don't have to review my articles if you don't want to. :) Also, since all of mine are already up, it'll be a while before any more of mine are added. Mad Jack O'Lantern 05:09, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rise and Fall

Hi there Thunderforge. I noticed you removed the {{AOE}} template from the Rise and Fall: Civilizations at War article. I was the one who added the template, and I wanted to know your reasons for its removal before adding it back. If it makes sense, I won't add it. I have both Age of Empires 3 and Rise and Fall, and I can say that, aside from the "Hero Mode" they are very, very similar. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 02:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, ok. That's a very good reason, but I think I'll create another template, for all RTS/RTT games, to replace the one which has been deleted. I just suggested a wikiproject for strategy games; I can see you like them, would you care to vote? If you're interested, just add your name here. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 20:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject

Hi again Thunderforge. I just recently proposed a new WikiProject, for Strategy Games, which was promoted. I wanted to invite you to Wikipedia:WikiProject Strategy Games, because you are a good contributer to Strategy computer game articles. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 21:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Thunderforge! I just wanted to tell you that the userbox has been proposed. You can suggest improvements here. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 00:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and while you're at it, you can vote on the first Collaboration for the project as well. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 00:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Empire Earth

Hey man take a look at this. Did I mess something up or can I add it into the article? All I did was get rid of some uneeded headings and combine some stuff.--Clyde (talk) 04:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

It's alright. I actually thought you would be more overprotective to the article, but you are telling me to shorten it. That I can do (I'm glad I have your permission). Finally, the trivia section is removed unless a source can be found, then I'd probably put it as a subsection in reception. Merry Christmas (eve).--Clyde (talk) 15:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
I reduced the article as best I could, mostly focusing on the epochs. The storyline is not much longer than StarCraft, and starcraft has it's own storyline article, so I think it's alright. Unless you really don't want me to, I'm going to add my version.--Clyde (talk) 16:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] um...yeah

So I wrote this, anything you add would help. I used this for ideas, if that helps you.--Clyde (talk) 20:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas!

A little late, but it's better than nothing. :-) | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 01:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)


Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Thunderforge! | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 01:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
May you and your family have a Merry Christmas, as well as any other Holiday you may celebrate. I hope that warmth, good cheer, and love surround you during these special days. May God bless you during the Holidays. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 01:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you. :-) | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 10:15, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Empire Move

Well alright, it's cool to disagree, I just thought since at the time I moved Empire Earth, the vote was 6 for and 2 against (it still is 6 for and 3 against). All the games you citied as not having disambig pages simply haven't had the move take place, and Age of Empires has a dablink to the series page. You can go ahead and move Empire Earth back, but it's kinda tedious and annoying to move back and forth and fix all the links. If they do decide to standardize the disambig pages, you or I might have to redo all the work I just finished. You might want to wait and see what the verdict is about disambig pages, then we can decide about what to do from there. What are your thoughts about putting a dablink in Empire Earth to the series article?--Clyde (talk) 01:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Well if Empire needs to be moved back, I can do it, but I still like what you did with the Age of Empires page by putting in a dablink. Do you want to do that for Empire instead of a disambig page? Personally I think it is better, and more of a compromise.--Clyde (talk) 15:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
P.S. We all have bad days. I had to have the admins delete one of mine. Funny story there. ; )
Sorry I was a little vague with my response. I think my opinion stands as use a dablink if there are only two articles, such as the game and the series. If there are more articles than just the series and the game (Metal Gear) then use a disambig page. I'm also going to leave this as a comment on the survey.--Clyde (talk) 16:29, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Kenna Good Article nomination

Could you give that article another look and be more specific what needs to be done? Do you think it doesn't flow well because you don't understand it? If not, then I don't see how it is so poorly written that it fails GA immediately without putting it on hold. I could understand if it was a Featured Article Candidate, but it's just a good article nomination. I made a few minor edits, for what it's worth. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Strategy games

Hello Thunderforge.

WikiProject Strategy games has finished it's first collaboration: Risk (game) (). We are now asking for nominations and input for a new one. Please voice your ideas at the talk page.

Clyde (talk) and WikiProject Strategy games.

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Strategy games

Hello Thunderforge.

WikiProject Strategy games finished it's first collaboration on Risk (game). We have voted for possible candidates for the next collaboration, and three finalists have been selected:

  1. . Stronghold (2001 game)
  2. . Age of Empires
  3. . Age of Empires II

If possible, please vote here on which of these articles to collaborate on. Thank you.

WikiProject Strategy games