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This article was nominated for deletion on August 12, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

[edit] Episode Plot

Is it just me, or does the plot summary seem pretty choppy and kinda looks like it was written on a pretty basic reading level? I mean, there are just too many sentences, and all of them are really short, so, quoting Zim, "it looks kinda... not good." So I guess I'm gonna fix it. Henshin-A-Go-Go 22:44, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Update: I fixed it. Here is before:

The pilot episode featured the Boo Crew's madness over a pair of sneakers. The crew was at the local swimming pool. The gang then went home. D-Roc felt that he needed cool shoes to be popular. His mother didn't want him to buy the expensive shoes, so she went to the mall's second-hand store and then to Mr. Johnson's supermarket to buy him cheaper shoes. These shoes still didn't satisfy D-Roc. D-Roc asked Sue if she would make him a pair of shoes. She did and they looked just like the shoes he wanted. He fantasized that Mr. Johnson's daughter would notice him more if he wore these shoes. The Boo Crew decided they could make money selling knock-off shoes. They sold the shoes around the city but the shoes started to fall apart. D-Roc was called into Principal Everson's office about the shoes. D-Roc decided he didn't need cool shoes to be popular. After he started wearing his old shoes, Mr. Johnson's daughter took interest in him.

And this is after:

The pilot episode featured the Boo Crew's madness over a pair of sneakers, the Air Jareds (a parody of Air Jordans. The crew was at the local swimming pool, which closed down for school, forcing the gang to go home, and allowing Chad to attempt to skateboard in it, failing miserably. D-Roc felt that he needed the Air Jareds to be popular, but because of their $150 price tag, his mother refused to buy them. They then went to the bargain store in the bottom of the mall, with D-Roc's mother joining in the scuffle for discount items. After not finding any shoes, they then went to Mr. Johnson's discount store, where D-Roc's mother tells him pick out a pair of "Air Johnsons," with D-Roc claiming that the smell like meat. Unfortunately, he was forced to get them, which led to him trying in vain to get rid of the Air Johnsons. Later, as D-Roc was sitting the steps in front of the apartment building, Sue and her family arrived from the store. She notices that D-Roc is unhappy, which leads him to explain to her his situation, with Sue then saying that she can make them for him. He then gives her the Air Johnsons. The next day, Sue arrives with his shoes, explaining that they weren't free, asking him for $50. He fantasized that Mr. Johnson's daughter would notice him more if he wore these shoes. After a smal "fashion show" at their school, the Boo Crew realizes that since the bootlegged Air Jareds were so popular, they could make a lot of money selling them. They sold the shoes around the city, but due to the poor construction (using highly flammable glue, honey, Dirty's snot, and bubble gum to adhere the soles to the bottom), the shoes started to fall apart. After a scene showing the side-effects of the shoes, D-Roc and Sue were called into Principal Eyeverson's office. After giving everyone their refunds, D-Roc realizes that he doesn't need cool shoes to be popular. After wearing the Air Johnsons to school, Mr. Johnson's daughter took interest in him, saying that he was the "first and only" person to wear them.

Much better, eh? Henshin-A-Go-Go 23:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Better, but way too much detail for a Wikipedia article, in my opinion...... 192.18.128.12 15:55, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thugaboo is THE greatest show ever, yo. Word.

[edit] Criticism Section

I have removed the following paragraph, originally posted as a Criticism section:

Leading up until its release, Thugaboo has been hailed as racist or offensive in its portrayal of Inner-city culture and the seemingly stereotypical behavior of the characters. For example, Asian American Soo-Young was the target of a SARS joke. The show also has a running gag that Principal Everson who is partially blind doesn't know he has a disability.

There are a number of things wrong with this:

The opening sentence is a great example of weasel words. If it was "hailed" as racist, please cite reliable sources that show this. Otherwise it just looks like you consider it racist.
Without further explanation (at least) its far from clear how a SARS joke, even aimed at an Asian American character could be considered racist. Perhaps it is, but one sentence is not enough to establish that.
The last sentence clearly doesn't relate to racism at all, and I don't see how the running gag is "offensive in its portrayal of Inner-city culture" either. Again, this needs more explanation if its to be included.

Thanks, Gwernol 11:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think any article that portrays this show positively can be neutral, as it's just plain objectively terrible. Anyone it isn't offensive to must be offensive themselves.

This show seems like it uses more offensive Stereotypes than most Adult comedys- and its a kids show.

Asian bootleggers, white kid who acts black is a stupid wannabe, fat people eating nonstop, a kid being laughed at for being "mixed race", SARS joke etc. etc.

In light of this, removing the critisism section completely seems irresponsible on your part. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.100.137.118 (talk • contribs) .

My removal wasn't based on whether the critisism was true. I have no idea whether the show is offensive or not, I haven't seen it. I removed the section because it doesn't meet the verifiability and neutral point of view policies of Wikipedia. By all means include a critisism of the show, but only if you can cite reliable sources for these views. You cannot just put your personal point of view into a Wikipedia article. So if, for example, the New York Times ran an article describing Thugaboo's use of stereotypical characters as racist it could be included here. Gwernol 10:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Sources aren't hard to find. Just Google Thugaboo racist, you'll find many results. Jello!! 08:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Want sources? Heres some:

http://www.californiaconservative.org/2006/08/14/

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/08/12/145926.php

Yes. Thugaboo is consider racist. Equally, some people miss it. But there, you have sources - the Critism is worth mentioning. Personally, I have no idea how this got past the PC people. --ACE Spark 12:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)