User talk:Thryduulf

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For your help with April 21, 2005 Stubsensor cleanup project you are hereby given the Stubsensor award.
For your help with April 21, 2005 Stubsensor cleanup project you are hereby given the Stubsensor award.
I hereby award you the RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar for your heroic efforts in repairing and repelling the Willy on Wheels vandal — Bratschetalk 5 pillars (KC)
I hereby award you the RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar for your heroic efforts in repairing and repelling the Willy on Wheels vandal — Bratschetalk 5 pillars (KC)
This PSY is awarded for being polite, courteous, and extremely helpful to myself and other users, and as such bieng a blessing for good mental health. Awarded by PhatePunk 22:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
This PSY is awarded for being polite, courteous, and extremely helpful to myself and other users, and as such bieng a blessing for good mental health. Awarded by PhatePunk 22:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] DRV

I'm glad that the consensus appeared to be forming that the speedy deletions were without merit, but I fear that an early close takes away from the legitimacy of the result and leaves the door open in the future. Can I request we let the discussion run its course as the nom? --badlydrawnjeff talk 14:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I think he did the right thing, the deletion review had run its course, all articles were undeleted and "This page is about articles, not about people. If you feel that a sysop is routinely deleting articles prematurely, or otherwise abusing their powers, please discuss the matter on the user's talk page, or at Wikipedia talk:Administrators." Might be time for the Admin noticeboard as I'd love to get the interpretation of other admins and long-time editors on this topic. --Canley 14:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't have speedy closed it, but I won't ask Thryduulf to re-open: it is really up to the deleter whether to object, or those passionately sharing his view of G11. However, when a DRV is closed as restore, listings at AfD should be automatic, and Thryduulf should do them; I know it's a pain (esoteric programing...grumble), but it helps get the issues resolved. I wouldn't use the grey template, either; just put it in recently concluded -- if you need to reopen, it is still easy to revert. Best wishes, Xoloz 15:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


I speedy closed it as, with the exception of Improv and one other person (the first to comment), the consensus about the articles was unanimous. The discussion had moved on to Improv's actions. The administrators noticeboard or an RfC are the place for that sort of discussion not DRV.

I used the template as I felt to put it into the recently closed could give the impression of trying to brush it under the carpet and hiding reasoning. I felt that the full, signed, explanation of my speedy closing would also give a better impression than the anonymous short summary in the recently closed section would do. I wont object to reopening it if others want, nor will I object to others reopening it if they feel it apropriate.

I'll start putting the articles up for AfD now. From the deletion summaries, the images were deleted only for being unused following the article deletions, so I don't feel IfD is apropriate. Thryduulf 15:20, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I can understand the use of the template, I suppose; I rarely use it because I almost never speedy-close any substantial debate. While "personalizing" deletion issues is always bad, DRV is a good place to discuss differences of CSD interpretation, so criticism of Improv wasn't altogether inappropriate. As I said, though, reopening is really left to the wishes of the debate's minority, in this case, the deleter and his supporter. If they feel the DRV discussion is useful, or might turn in their favor, let it run; otherwise, meh...
It is for this reason, by the way, that I almost never speedy close the near-frivilous DRV requests we get from "clueless newbies" (unless the request makes no sense whatsoever.) The newbie will almost always harbor bitter feelings if he is "rushed out the door" -- no matter how much of a landslide the thing is, I give it five days, so that he will at least feel he was treated fairly. I make this observation since you're picking up DRVs more often. Also, feel like having a gander at October 1? :) As a participant, I can't close that one. Best wishes, Xoloz 15:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
With the ones I have been closing before 5 days this is the first where there hasn't been a couple of days of no comments before closing. This is also the reason I've not touched October 1 yet - I was debating closing it as I though it was pretty much settled, then when I clicked to edit the page I spotted you'd made a comment! Even when the discussion does stop its not going to be an easy one - and "no consensus" wouldn't really help much on this occasion! Thryduulf 15:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Yep, DRVs never close as "no consensus". A "tie" results in a relist; if you closed October 1 now, by my count, it would be a "tie", unless you discount someone. Best wishes, Xoloz 16:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DRV closure

Did you mean to remove the discussion of Seventh Party System? I thought one purpose of the daily pages was to become the archives once they were no longer transcluded. Septentrionalis 15:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Looking at this, one should NEVER close a discussion that results in a delete early -- I'll reopen. Xoloz 15:48, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Done. To explain further, direct deletions from DRV (rather than relistings) require an 80% consensus (approx.); thus one should NEVER "snowball" them, because one dissenter is sometimes enough to result in a need to relist, rather than delete. Plus, in this case, the keep closer hadn't had the chance to comment; to close the DRV early is an insult to him, really. The closer is entitled to respect. Best wishes, Xoloz 16:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok. Looking at that again I was premature, I appologise. I'll bear this in mind for the future. Thryduulf 16:10, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
No problem. Believe me, I am happy for the help at DRV! I'm starting to see Endorse Deletions in my sleep. :) Best wishes, Xoloz 16:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tim Tams

This has already had an AFD after it was restored, so I wouldn't think it needs another one (up to you of course). Cheers Yomanganitalk 15:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I see Uncle G has already closed it. I was just going through nominating all the ones that were restored per procedure (take a look at my contribs to see how much effort this was!). I spotted the existing afd and I did look at the dates but for some reason I read them as 2005(!) and based on this I set up the 2nd nomination. Had I read them correctly then obviously I would just have let it lie. Sorry for that. Thryduulf 16:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
No worries - the speed you managed to get all those in the log takes the biscuit (boom boom) - I wouldn't expect you to do an in-depth analysis on each one. Uncle G closed it staight off anyway. Yomanganitalk 16:21, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UK and Ireland Border

Hi, I have revised your change to the above a little, to avoid anyone saying that the UK is not a nation (which someone is sure to do otherwise). Your point about it being the only land frontier possessed by Ireland or the UK is correct but as comprise islands that's self evident. Thanks for the other corrections, though bigpad 10:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coincidence in the Word Association game

Heh, I was just typing in 'Neil Morrissey' myself in the word association game and got an edit conflict...turns out great minds think alike! Phileas 19:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Protecting children's privacy

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Protecting children's privacy. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Protecting children's privacy/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Protecting children's privacy/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Arbitration Clerk, FloNight 20:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] WP:RFA/Cynical

Thank you for contributing to my RFA. Unfortunately it failed (final tally 26/17/3). As a result of the concerns raised in my RFA, I intend to undergo coaching, get involved in the welcoming committee and try to further improve the quality of my contributions to AFD and RFA. All the best. Cynical 14:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Olchfa footbridge second AfD

Hi, I have nominated Olchfa footbridge for deletion at WP:AFD. The nom is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olchfa footbridge (second nomination). --KFP (talk | contribs) 17:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks for Your Help

I apologize for adding more than one word on the word assocation game. I'm very new to Wikipedia and I promise to abide by the rules next time in order for everyone to enjoy the game :). Thanks again! +WiiAlbanyGirl 16:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South Western

Do you think South Western is SW trains, or will it be a seperate company? Simply south 16:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Sandbox/Word Association/Ultra Game

Sorry about that - I thought it was one word to each possible combination, not one at a time for the grid. Thanks for setting me straight. Cheers Natgoo 19:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: word association

You're quite welcome. I've been doing this for less than a month myself and do consider myself an addict as well. I'm sure that I check the page at least 15 times per day. --Irish Hog 20:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need advice on UK railway stations

Please see my recent post in Template talk:Infobox UK station --ArmadilloFromHell 04:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] British TOCs Template

I'd be grateful if you could give a yea or nay to my idea for updating the {{British TOCs}} template, which can be found here. Ta muchly Hammersfan 19/11/06, 19.20 GMT

[edit] Rail accidents criteria

Thanks for letting me know about the discussion on this, I have added my (probably far too long) comments. Hyperman 42 00:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CityRail Station Diagrams

Hello - just noticed your edits in changing the JPEG diagrams of CityRail stations to SVGs. I use Firefox, and the change has made all the boxes exceedingly large, so much so that it makes the article look bad. I'm tempted to delete them all now. Is there any way you can retain the former size, but maintain the good quality of the SVG images? JROBBO 22:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

If you are going to continue to change over the diagrams, can you at least resize them when you change the diagram format? I don't want to have to go after what you do and change them all, although I'm happy to do the ones you have done so far. JROBBO 02:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timing

Aren't you going overboard by being on here at 3:30am?

[edit] Wikipedia:Photo Matching Service

Thought you might want to know about this, it has the same goals as Wikipedia:WikiProject Photography, but is better organized. --Gphototalk 18:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

There are some photos that need taking in your location at Wikipedia:Photo Matching Service! --Gphototalk 17:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Protecting children's privacy

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

The community is encouraged to continue working to achieve an acceptable formulation of Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy, or an alternative, which addresses problems presented by disruptive users, while avoiding the creation of a hostile atmosphere for children who are editing in good faith. Users who disrupt Wikipedia by posing as children, projecting a provocative persona, and disclosing personal information may be banned on a case by case basis. Users who appear to be children editing in good faith who disclose identifying personal information may be appropriately counseled. Deletion and oversight may be used in appropriate cases to remove the information.

For the Arbitration committee. Arbitration Committee Clerk, FloNight 17:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Descriptive block summaries

Hello, there. Thank you for your message, but the thing is that "user..." is a commonly used jargon when blocking users with offensive usernames (in this case, an in-joke on the IRC admins channel regarding User:Coredesat), and it is explained in the message that a blockee gets to notify that they are blocked

If the reason given is "username", "user...", "contact an administrator for verification purposes", or something similar, then you or someone with whom you share an IP address has been blocked for choosing an inappropriate username. To request a change in username and be unblocked, please follow these instructions. Alternatively, create a new account with a more appropriate name.

Cheers, have a good day!

--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 10:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

In the #wikipedia-en-admins channel, after a discussion of what name a disgruntled vandal would use to impersonate User:Coredesat, we came up with the name of Cordlesstwat. So, one of the admins in the channel, created the user, and I while monitoring the new user log noticed it and immediately blocked (without autoblock checked of course). This example in question is a wrong one to take (since nobody will notice it save the admin who created the account), though I am inclined to agree that we should be making an effort to use more descritptive block summaries in cases where the user may be confused as to what he has done wrong (shared IPs, policy infringements like 3RR), and not in cases of username blockages, where the person knows full well that they have deliberately chosen an offensive username. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 10:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't blame you; I don't frequent IRC much myself. To tell you the truth, I'm trying to stay away from any sort of controversy here, as I have throughout my wikilife of 1.5 years, and I've pretty much succeeded in maintaining a low profile. No one knows there's an admin by the name of Shreshth91, and I prefer it that way. Cheers! --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 11:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, let me clear it up further. I created the user after the discussion. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 11:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox UK Stations dates

Hey, I noticed you reverted a change made to the UK station infobox (removing the years). While I agree in theory, it does now mean that stations where both figures for both financial years are given as a comparison look a little... odd, with them having the same title. See Ardrossan South Beach railway station for an example. --Dreamer84 01:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First bristol

ok would this be better idea for that article? put a paragrah about it on first group plc, and have first bristol redirected to frist group plc. and in transport for bristol (what ever its called) have a link to a new article called bus services in bristol? Mark999 19:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Have first bristol as a redirect to first group. and have a little line about it on there.
then copy and paste the current frist bristol in to Transport in bristol (very edited) and add more about other services in bristol.
But if you want i could do it tomorrow. and i would move the service info to wikitravel. and add relevent stuff to both articles

edit 21:37 could i have your email because i have another question but its very long and i dont have the time until the morning

mark 999 at 21:35

can i edit first bristol and do the changes you said tomorrow because i will have 5 hours to work on it. mark999 21:48

[edit] Bristol Parkway

last week i got an email from first saying that they are building a plaform 3 now. but that prob means clearing the space for it, is it important enought for it to be added?

mark999 22:38

[edit] Featured lists

In response to your question, see Wikipedia_talk:Featured_lists#Proposed_change_to_all_featured_lists and all subsequent comments save the last section on that page. Basically, Wikipedia:Featured content is set up to display a randomly selected featured list each time the page is refreshed. The edits made to the London underground list and others involved formatting to make this display work properly. --CBD 12:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of rail accidents criteria

As discussion seems to have goe quiet, I've added a suggested way forward. Merry Christmas! Hyperman 42 13:26, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] By the way...

Image:WikiThanks.pngDon't image that I didn't notice this. I think it showed real class to give me a tip of the hat when we were involved in a heated dispute on a separate matter. Herostratus 03:45, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baseball projects

Good idea to notify the baseball projects about Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball 1876. I should have done that... BTW, do you know why the baseball projects are divided into WP:WPBB and WP:WPBBP? It would seem like the two are too related to be separate and most discussions in one seem just as related to the other. Maybe a project merge is in order? —Wknight94 (talk) 15:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] London meet is TUESDAY 9th, not Wednesday 10th!

Update: Jimbo got his days of the week confused. This is now happening TUESDAY 9th, same place. You may care to sign up again or not - David Gerard 10:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating an infobox

If i do this, do you think it is okay if i just copy say the London one to a new page and just try guesswork at creating a few alterations or do i need to start from scratch? Do i register it anywhere? Simply south 20:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I am trying to create one for the SPT area in Glasgow. Simply south 21:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Should i inform them it is under construction? Simply south 22:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ffestiniog Railway route map

Hi. I don't know if you perhaps got a direct answer to your questions at [1], but in case not -- and as it's been about 7 weeks (I've only just seen them) -- this is just to let you know I've posted some answers there. -- Picapica 18:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Island Line

A question, that I thought I'd put to a few people who have taken an interest in the {{British TOCs}} template in the past, regarding the status of Island Line. We all know that it was amalgamated with South West Trains as the new South Western franchise, but has it actually stopped running? To the best of my knowledge, the service on the Isle of Wight is still operated as Island Line, and has not and will not (in the foreseeable future anyway) be rebranded as South Western Trains. Not to mention that there has been no alteration to the existing SWT article to include Island Line. The question is therefore, given that other "services" are included as train operators on the template (yes, at my insistence I'll admit), shouldn't Island Line be put back? Hammersfan, 07/02/07, 18.25 GMT.

[edit] South Western franchise page

What should be done now with the franchise article? Please reply on Talk:South Western (rail franchise). Simply south 20:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link-boy

Your name is listed at Wikipedia:Photo_Matching_Service#Somerset. Would you please consider my Link-boy article photo at the photo matching service. Thanks. -- Jreferee 16:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Basford Hall sidings - 47077.jpg

this image Image:Basford Hall sidings - 47077.jpg I believe shows a class 56 locomotive, I have made appropriate edits but thought it polite to inform you, you may with to change the file name Oxyman42

[edit] Doris Angleton

I will tell you why Doris Angleton is notable: The death case made a CBS news report http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/10/48hours/main323924.shtml , a Texas Monthly report http://www.texasmonthly.com/mag/issues/2001-09-01/feature5.php , and various other reports due to questions about possible involvement of Doris' husband in her murder. WhisperToMe 00:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe you posted on an AFD of some non-notable murder victim and evaluated the people cited. Doris was cited in the debate. WhisperToMe 15:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

EDIT: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott McKeown WhisperToMe 15:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Class 378

I'd be extremely grateful if you could take a look at the Class 378 page and leave your opinion. It has been listed as an AfD on the basis that I have not provided evidence confirming the Class number. I have done this now, but those who are promoting its deletion are not prepared to accept the sources I have given. Given your attempts to provide civility during the whole {{British TOCs}} incident, I respect your opinion and would appreciate you contributing to the debate on this particular issue. Thanks Hammersfan 11/03/07, 13.10 GMT