Talk:Three-finger salute (Scouts)

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[edit] Picture?

That picture isn't the Scout Salute, it's the Scout Sign thats made during the saying of the Scout Promise (Whilst the Scout Salute is used for greeting and during opening and closing ceremonies) At least thats how it works in South Africa. Jediwannabe 15:17, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

It is the same way in the BSA. And the caption is... awful. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Those people aren't even Scouts, they're Rovers (Granted they fall under the same general movement). Jediwannabe 13:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Critique

I'm in the BSA, so I'd like some feedback before making any changes, as things are different in other organizations.

  • We don't salute other Scouts, only the flag. When handing off the flag in a ceremony, it is the flag that is saluted, not the Scout.
  • I never heard about this "bond". Is this a tradition elsewhere or just a retcon?
  • The second paragraph repeats elements of the first.
  • As far as I can see, the only difference is how the salute is presented is in palm out (Commonwealth style) or palm in (US style).
  • Canadian Scouts do the salute vertically?

--Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

  • In South Africa we salute the flag during a ceremony, and we salute each other as a formal greeting, and when receiving awards. The salute isn't used as a casual greeting as the article implies.
  • I've also never heard of this "bond", but I suppose it makes sense, I've always been taught, and always teach my scouts that the three fingers stand for the three parts of the Scout Promise, Duty to God and Country, Duty to Others (to help other people at all times), and Duty to self (to obey the scout law), this is also the official explanation in the South African Scout Association handbooks.
  • The second paragraph is basically useless, my understanding is that BSA took the US armed forces salute and changed it to the standard Scout salute (Ok, great...why is that interesting??) Wouldn't it just be easier just to say that BSA salutes palm in, and most other countries salute palm out?
  • What's a vertical salute??

This article needs some serious work. Someone who knows nothing about Scouting will read it and all they'll really learn is that BSA scouts salute like the US armed forces but in the Scout salute style, Canadian Scouts salute vertically and the rest of the world salute in some other manner that isn't mentioned explicity. Also, that picture needs to be changed, it's school holidays over here now so I can't take a picture of one of my Scouts saluting. Jediwannabe 13:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Three fingers for three duties- that is the BSA explanation as well. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expand and rename

I propose that this article be expanded to include:

As such, it should then be renamed to Scout sign and salute. Scout Sign currently redirects to this article. Per the BSA Language of Scouting, sign and salute are lower case- we would need to decide if that fits all the programs. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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