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[edit] Tori Thompson

Was just a mistake I guess, I actually just edited out Category:Idol series winners (since American Juniors is not an Idol show), but anything else was not my own doing, it must have just been a processing error on Wikipedia's part.ZlatkoT 11:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Education in Canada

Thivierr, in regards to the new Education in Canada proposal, please come give your opinon on the talk page for whether or not we can proceed with archiving the old project and putting the new one in place. Thanks! --Stephane Charette 18:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Beauty Pageants

Just to let you know that after your urging, WikiProject Beauty Pageants has gone live. The page still needs some work but if you're interested, sign up and we'll go from there :) -- PageantUpdater 01:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "last updated" field

I think we might have to update the template so that the field is no longer required or even change the field name. Let's move discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Education in Canada. -- Usgnus 02:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] miss universe canada

hwo come you deleted the history ? technically we should only include 2003 on considering miss universe canada began in 2003.MBCC

Well, I'm not sure how to handle the situation, at the moment. But, surely we shouldn't have a name in both Miss Canada and Miss Universe Canada. --Rob 04:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

This may effect multiple articles, so I started a central discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Beauty Pageants. --Rob 05:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] beauty pageant

actually i'm okay with keeping it seperate... if you are... i did make a slight change to the miss universe one again... including only the ones since the 2003 creation, including the new history of the pageant... if this is alright then it is alright with me :o) MBCC

[edit] Canada's Pageant History

Hey Rob - Turns out I've got WAY too much time on my hands... I just put this together Canadian Pageants, let me know how this works for you, and if it's suitable to keep everything organized.  :o) MBCC

[edit] Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-05-27_Notability_(fiction)

Hey there, Rob,

I've taken over from Cowman as the unofficial mediation cabal guy for this discussion. I've has some things to say on the subject, and I was just letting you know the case hasn't faded just because CowMan is no longer participating. Reyk _YO! 08:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] changing titles

hey rob - just wondering if you knwo how to change the titles of articles ? i noticed it was done for the canadian history one, and i do liek the change, i just dont' know how to do it, if in the future it needs to be done... thanks for the help !! MBCC 19:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Table formatting

Any chance you could take a look at Miss Alabama and see what you think of the table? I'm not exactly thrilled with the asthetics of it but I couldn't think of any other way to include all the information (which I believe is relevant) than how I have it now... any suggestions? I started out with even more information (spaces for local title as well as hometown, and for their talent) but I cut it down to this (although I would have preferred to retain the local title information... we will probably have to make do with a mention of important locals separately). I would like this to be a template of sorts for other MAO state articles so have at it! (I have mentioned this on the wikiproject page as well). Thanks -- PageantUpdater 05:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC) :)

After a quick look I don't see any real problem. Personally, I would suggest merging the last three fields into one. Then, if you have a single "Results and notes" field, you would write the information in a standard order. The merged field has the advantage of making things more "prose"-ish, as opposed to "data-table"-ish (to abuse the English language). A description of the cotnestant in this field can be a "first step" to spinning-off one person into a separate article (e.g. write about them in pageant article, then, when there's more than a few sentences, make a separate article). But, there's nothing seriously wrong with what you did, so I don't see anything I need to change. I haven't spent lots of time thinking about it yet. --Rob 05:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whoops

I feel I owe you an apology. I just re-read what I first wrote about the pictures, and realised how unintentionally abrasive it was. Cain Mosni 19:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How about-

How about removing the Anti Scientologist Rant entirely, if it can't be toned down?

Because It might be said that she belongs to Scientology International, and that in December, 2005, she was involved in an AntiPsychiatry Demonstration staged by Scientology... Michael 19:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] secondary school infobox

Hi - I'm trying to familiarize myself with templates. I am working on Washington schools and have run into a problem. I would like to either colorize the text or just make boxes with the appropriate color fill for the school colors. The problem is when a school color is white... I'm looking through the help articles and I just don't know enough about template use/editing/creation to pull it off. That doesn't mean that I won't stop working on it in my sandbox, but if you could stear me in the right direction - I sure would appreciate it. --Geneb1955^Talk/_CVU 03:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not really sure myself, as I haven't really used colors much. --Rob 07:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Two Guys and a Girl

Can you please explain what it is and how relevant it is? Thanks. - Mike Beckham 21:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining that function. Been here since mid last year editing and never learnt about that. Cheers! - Mike Beckham 23:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedies

Hi, I needed to point someone at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion earlier this evening (er .. yesterday, actually!) and found you had rv'd User:Tom harrison's repair work at this diff with the comment "rv: I don't think there's a consensus for that". Just to clarify, "a real person, group of people," does include a company both on the legal basis (aka legal fiction) that a company is a person, and also that a company is a group of people, and as such that criteria has always implicitly included businesses/companies. My addition was to make it more explicit as we are suffering an increasing level of companies and their marketing departments or advertising consultants deciding that Wikipedia is a great way to do viral marketing and create links that will be picked up by Google and other search engines, and explicitness there is easier to point 'offending' editors at. This was a clarification of the existing policy, not a change. --AlisonW 23:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

No, I don't think those have always been included. Generally, admins who do them are challenged at DRV. A7 would do nothing to deal with the problem you speak of. A7 applies when there is no claim of notability. Business ads, almost always, do have a claim of being the biggest/best/greatest. A7 is for ordinary folks, who don't understand our policies, and think they can use us like geocities (or myspace), as a free web host . Such articles don't claim notability, because the person isn't selling anything, or trying ot promote anything. They're just an ordinary person, clueless that this is an encyclopedia. Agressive marketers know how to bypass a7, by making a plausable claim of notability. --Rob 23:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] well then...

"What do I have to do with this? My article is well sourced and has no history of attacks."

In light of the Angela Lanza (singer) thing, here's an AFD which might be of particular interest to you. — Jun. 15, '06 [20:59] <freak|talk>

There are actually two separate issues on Liz Shaw (New Zealand): the content and the topic. The current content requires deletion per policy, due to negative claims, without adequate sourcing. The topic of Shaw, is suited to an article, and a future article would be appropriate, when done in a fully sourced manner. That is why I already voted to delete, but would welcome a new aritcle on her in the future. --Rob 21:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Oops I didn't notice you'd already voted. Must be the sig thing. In any case, I happened upon it and remembered the other afd. — Jun. 15, '06 [22:08] <freak|talk>

I've recently learned about your (failed) attempts to vote stack on the Lanza AFD, using IRC, as well your personal attacks on me, and the subject. Also, despite what you accused me of, I actually don't know the girl. You don't seem to understand, a person can be opposed to viscious personal attacks against an innocent person, even if they don't know the person. --Rob 18:36, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Big Brother

This is your final warning, next time you disrupt Wikipedia to make a point, you will be blocked. -- 9cds^(talk) 17:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I didn't realize before editing it, that it was owned by you. Please try not to make personal threats against others. Its disturbing. I'll try to be less concerned with the content of the project. After all, it has *no* official satus, its not a guideline, nor a policy. So, I guesse, it was my mistake to be concerned so much with what it says. In the future, I'll try not to revert your personal opinions (posing as policy) as much. --Rob 18:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

p.s. You're message gave a false impression your an admin with blocking powers, when in fact, your RFA was rejected by a clear majority (before withdrawal). Attempts at ownership related to BB was even mentioned in the discussion. --Rob 18:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civility warning

You have recently been demonstrating high levels of uncivility to other editors; please be warned that you may be blocked from editing if you continue. If you would like to learn about contributing to our encyclopedia with a more civil manner, please see WP:CIVIL. Thanks.

--Xyrael ^T 19:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saryn Hooks

You participated in the Finola Hackett AfD. Please also join the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saryn Hooks (second nomination). Thank you. - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

You have removed the following links from Scientology article:

• [ The Sick and Twisted Truth of Scientology]
• Scientology is not a science, claimed banned by the church of Scientology

I think that these links have ground, they are not mentioned in the article, they are useful and definitely should be mentioned. Why do you think they are useless? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.5.196.168 (talk • contribs) .

We're not a link farm, and those links give nothing of use to our readers. We don't want everybody who has a Scientology web page to add a link here. That's not our role. --Rob 05:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brenda Venus

Hi, I noticed that you removed the content that I had disputed, but did not remove the tag. I assume that you aren't disputing anything else on the page, so I'm going to remove it now, but it you wanted to leave it for another reason, please feel free to revert me. --Brian G 16:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

You're right, I don't dispute the other stuff. I probably should have removed the tag myself. I just wasn't sure. I figured if one things made-up, maybe another thing is. --Rob 18:01, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion review for Arbor View High School

Please be aware that this discussion has closed and is now being reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_June_29#Arbor View High School. Silensor 22:35, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAC: Sesame Street

You recently commented on my FAC for Sesame Street, which failed because I acted to slowly on it. Would you care revisiting the article, to see if it meets your approval now? -- Zanimum 19:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] edit summary

I did not include one as it is not policy and the {{PROD}} has the reason included in it. Feedyourfeet 01:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The Edit Summary Summary is for people Watching the article, who won't, by default, see the PROD tag. The instructions at WP:PROD state you should have an edit summary. You'll find when you include Edit Sumaries, it causes most regular editors to ignore most of your edits (as they have no need to review them). When people think somebody is sneaking by a deletion, people might be more observant. --Rob 02:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Rob, I have warned Feedyourfeet that his persistent blanking of his talk page without archiving is disruptive since it contains discussions of content. WP:OWN applies as ever. If you need an admin please leave me a message. Just zis Guy you know? 19:03, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for dealing with it. For now, it seems he either took your advice, or took a break. --Rob 21:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

"You agreed to allow others to modify your work here. So let them." so by posting on my talk page you agree to let me edit it, Which is what im doing. Feedyourfeet 07:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Goes both ways, though, which is where you are running into problems. Just zis Guy you know? 19:05, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please do not revert my talk page

Wikipedia:User_page "This page is considered a guideline on Wikipedia...Although it may be advisable to follow it, it is not policy." Feedyourfeet 05:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL Please do not revert my talk page Feedyourfeet 06:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is wrong with the Harper pic?

I find it funny that you want that pic to be deleated, while it states it's owner, and plus you would have to deleate all the other PM's pictures. SFrank85 13:36, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You Southaven High School

at least someone gives appreciation to a page that I made User:CRocka05 02:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Big Brother (USA season x)

Please note that the guideline for naming Big Brother related shows is as the subject suggests - this is in line with all TV show naming scheme guidelines. Please do not move the articles back again without good reason, and discussion. -- 9cds^(talk) 08:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Once again, somebody screwed up {{Big Brother USA}}. Notice how when you navigate between seasons, the links don't change blue-to-bold for the current season. It only works for Big Brother (USA season 7), which I fixed. There's two ways of fixing things: change the season article titles back, or change the links to bypass the redirects. Please finisih the job (bypassing redirects). My prior moves, done days ago, were to fix errors somebody else made, and I only did it, because the person refused to finish the job last time. Anyways, please stop acting like you're an admin, in the manner of your messages to me. --Rob 13:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixed, although redirects generally aren't seen as a problem, unless they're a double redirect. I think you misunderstand what an admin's role is: it's purely technical. -- 9cds^(talk) 13:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

FYI - I found several double redirects and some circulars this morning which I cleaned up. Also, just so you know, I was in the process of fixing the link to Michael Donnellan which I had dewikied, but you beat me to it... --Brian G 18:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Rob 19:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stephen Harper Photo

Hello - I was hoping you would respond to my posting on the Talk page at Stephen Harper. In essence, I respectfully believe you have mis-interpreted the intent of the WP rule you cited regarding the use of fair use images, to wit: the last line of the policy on fair use states: As a quick test, ask yourself: "Can this image be replaced by any other image, while still having the same effect?" If the answer is yes, then the image probably doesn't meet the criteria above.

I reiterate here that in accordance with this clause, the effect of a professional studio shot vice a cropped, fuzzy, candid picture of him with his mouth hanging open should be obvious. With that in mind, I feel justified in replacing the "free" photo with a "fair use" photo, until such time as a more appropriate fair use photo makes itself available. Unless you have any objections to this line of reasoning, which I feel you are obligated to express on the talk page there.Michael Dorosh 03:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IMDB

The IMDB should absolutely not be used. It is not remotely - remotely - a reliable source. It is a bunch of fan-submitted trivia junk that gets spread around the net enough until it turns to fact. Granted, when it comes to "Awards & Nominations", or older film credits - it is probably more or less correct. But when you're using any kind of info on the person - trivia, bio info, birth place and date - you're taking a 50-50 chance that someone decided it was true and submitted it there. Which parts of the article would you like sourced? I'll find you some first-hand sources, the only ones we can use, if you need them. I removed the unfunny truth link from this page because the spam protection filter would not let me submit this message with it. Mad Jack 19:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

The external link to the IMDB wasn't there in the first place - I never removed it. I see no problem with using it as an external link if you want to add it to that section. However, the IMDB makes mistake after mistake with birth dates and places. If there's no controversy or dispute regarding her birth date, I don't see the point of sourcing it to a dubious source. Mad Jack 20:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Wikiproject!

Hi!

I wanted to invite you to join the new WikiProject Politicial parties and politicians in Canada. The goal is simple. To create a project, to create and maintain high quality articles on Wikipedia related to Canadian politicians, and Canadian political parties. Come on over and check us out at WP:PPAP. Ardenn 21:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amorphis

You are a good and kind man. Just zis Guy you know? 08:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Replacing fair-use with free

Hi, thanks for replacing fair-use images of Canadian PMs with free ones. Please be sure that the fair-use image is replaced in every article where it's used, and once it is, please add {{subst:or-fu-re|Image:XYZ.jpg}} (replacing XYZ with the name of the free image) to the image description page of the fair-use image. That tag states that the fair-use image has been replaced by the free image and gets it ready for deletion in 7 days. Thanks! User:Angr 10:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I do plan to do that, but it will take some time. It seems those Crown Copyrights were being used extremely/overly freely. BTW, I asked a question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#Lester B. Pearson photo, free or fair?. Several Canadian Prime Minister free images at Commons rely on the same interpretation of Library and Archives Canada. I don't want to make a huge number of replacements, until I'm certain that all is ok so far. --Rob 10:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kent-Meridian High School

Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kent-Meridian High School, I just thought you'd like to know that the consensus for High School articles now appears to be swinging back in favor of deletion. So this may indicate the beginning of another campaign to remove most High School articles. Your opinion on the AfD article would be appreciated. It might be helpful if a notability standard for High Schools could be agreed upon. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 16:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

A regular comedian, thanks for the chuckles RJH, LOL. Silensor 05:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non free image in Michael Jackson

you tell that to User:Crestville too. he's the one who reverted my edit stating that it's "wiki policy" to use current images as primary photos. it's not good to lie about Wikipedia policies just to promote an agenda. Drmagic 20:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I already knew that. I just didn't realise it wasn't on commons. Someone told me it was. Drmagic is quite content to whinge that people are reveting edits but is too lazy to actually read the image policy pages (I think he once asked me to "read it for [him]" - I ask you!) and so never quite understands what is going on. Typical Yank.--Crestville 12:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Troubled_former_child_stars

Category:Troubled_former_child_stars is not POV -- only child stars with cited alcohol/drug abuse, criminal involvement are listed.

Please remove the cfd request.

Justforasecond 01:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

No, the category violates policy, and must be deleted. Also, be advised, at least one of your additions of the cat, Alyssa Milano , violates WP:LIVING. I suggest you review all cases you've added, and remove any, that don't cite highly reliable sources. --Rob 02:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edyth May Sliffe Award winners

Do you think we should have an article about the Edyth May Sliffe Award, or at least the individual whom the award is named after? Approximately 50 teachers/schools receive this award for excellence in teaching mathmatics each year. Also Bahn Mi has added an image to the Miller Middle School article but it is not cooperating with the infobox/tables. Do you know how I might be able to fix that? Silensor 06:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I moved the image, so it seems ok now (not perfect). As for the award, I really don't know, as I've never heard of it. --Rob 06:26, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] K. K. Beck=Kathrine not Katherine?

Hi there. I'm staring at the cover (here) of Opal: A Life of Enchantment, Mystery and Madness (ISBN 0670031453) which states the author's name as "Kathrine Beck", and the back flap blurb (here) (lest we're confusing her with someone else) says "Kathrine Beck is the author of sixteen novels, mostly mysteries. She is the mother of three grown children and is married to the English crime writer Michael Dibdin. They live in Seattle Washington." The copyright page also has this spelling. [1] I was assuming that was her real name, but perhaps it is another pen name? "Kathrine Beck" gets more hits on Google, incidentally. Katr67 03:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:86ycdtotvcast.jpg

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[edit] Magical infoboxes

Can you work your magic on the infobox in the Franklin Elementary School article? Silensor 07:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I assume you mean there was a problem displaying the image in the info box. But before I could take a look, it seems the image (Image:Ace 255357999 1125839916.GIF) was deleted as a copyvio. --Rob 00:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carrick Primary School et cetera

Do you have access to Lexis Nexis? The resources online for this school appear to be somewhat limited, and the inspection report for this school is not available electronically. I managed to find a brief but interesting link which cited the death of an individual, apparently murdered by the Irish Reuplican Army by way of planting a bomb on a school desk in 1975 but naturally there isn't much news from 1975 freely available on the internet. Silensor 23:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't. I have similiar access for Canadian publications. Otherwise, I'm limited to Google, pretty much. --Rob 23:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of unsourced names

Hi, I see you've deleted a swathe of names from List of HIV-positive people. I totally agree that these names should be sourced, and if you look at the edit history you will see that as recently as an hour ago, I added about 8 references. Could you please revert your edits while I'm working on this over the next several days. I seem to be the only person actually bothering to provide these sources, and having the names back would make it easier. Why would you do this while someone is in the middle of working on it? I could understand if the article had been sitting there neglected and stagnant. Thanks Rossrs 16:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

HI. If you plan of sourcing them promptly (e.g. days), feel free to mass-revert me. But please re-remove any you can't source. --Rob 16:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, This is time consuming and like everyone, my time is finite, so I can't guarantee getting through the whole list "promptly". I've reverted it back so that only sourced entries appear on the list, and it's probably better that way anyhow as I can work on it as time permits rather than to a deadline. Yes, I will remove any that I can't find sources for - I've been doing that as I've worked down the list. Rossrs 17:16, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Man in Black

Rob, this is an appeal for calm. AMiB is an exceptional Wikipedian and can be relied on to do the right thing in the end. He has been provoked by some obdurate idiocy with a very long history, much of it deliberate trolling, and is absolutely right that {{db-empty}} can reaosnably be applied to these articles, also that speedy deletion is deliberately "process free". I have asked him to stop, I ask you to hold back as well. Just zis Guy you know? 20:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Israel or Palestine deletion sorting.

May I inquire about this edit? I'm a bit confused by why you thought they should go in that list. JoshuaZ 03:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

As I understand it, any AFD related to Israel, such as a place, person, thing, or event in Israel, goes in this list. Those two articles where about a British woman who had a supposed "marriage" to a dolphin in Eilat, Israel. In theory, almost all AFDs could be sorted by geography, but it seems to happen only for a few countries. --Rob 04:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the clarification. JoshuaZ 05:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sterady on...

The temperature seems to steadily increasing at wp:schools talk. JJay and N75 are famous for incivility, but I was a bit suprised at the flare-back I just got from you. - brenneman ^{L} 02:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Please re-read the discussion. You'll note, you misread what I said, as suggesting I expect you are responsible for fixing all of the worst "micro-stubs" you wish deleted. You were insulting in the tone, when you "replied" to me, as "Err, of course the burden to grow a micro-stub is on the people who want to keep it?". That was rude (and misleading). Then you followed up with "Whoa tiger". Now, instead of that response, you could of re-read my comments, and given a new response, to my actual comments. I have, as of late, been pointing out the issue of the lack of editing involvement by AFD participants, who because of this, can't appreciate the perspective of people who edit articles. You completely ignored my analogy to WP:MUSIC, and what that guideline works. Now, I think there's more of these people (who don't create/improve relevant articles) on the "delete side" of things, but I think there's a problem on all sides (for example, the person who says "keep please" in all the AFDs, but never edits any of the articles, is a problem, not to name names). We have *fundamental* communication problems. People are trying to jump to conclusions, without addressing why there's a total inability to understand one another. --Rob 03:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

• I think that the problem here arises from your comments getting lumped in with JJay's comments in my response. I am sorry for that. I have re-read the discussion, that was the first thing I did after your response, and my comment still doesn't seem rude or misleading to me. This is not meant to imply that you're wrong to feel that they were, of course. I generally find you to be a reasoned and responsive contributor, and perhaps both of us are responding to the "flame-war" style that some of the contributors there use.
• More generally, as a frequent closer of AfDs I often despair at how little effort people put into it. I'm as cranky about a nomination of "NN D" as I am about robotic "keep and cleanup" recomendations.

brenneman ^{L} 05:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amy Crews

Hi,

It wouldn't have helped to cut-and-paste in that case, as the snafu was my cutting the wrong link :) Ah well, fixed. Don't worry, I was more careful in my other game show closes, and resolved anyway not to do too many, as one closer should not become de facto "Lord of Game Shows." ;) As a general practice, I only post the link of the redirected to page in my closure if a range of possible targets were disputed in the debate. Otherwise, barring goofiness from me, the choice should be obvious. Best wishes, Xoloz 04:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] April Lewis

I did the history undeletion of April Lewis for you. In the future, if you want, just come to me with these. Best wishes, Xoloz 19:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Rob 00:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems with Image:The Perez Family - Durita and Juan.jpg

Abu Badali 20:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Wikiprojectbeautypageants.JPG

I appears it was wrongly tagged. I restored it. Sorry about that! Dmcdevit·t 00:03, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Katelyn Tarver

please note http://www.katelyntarveronline.com is the Offical website. Just because they have a myspace account does NOT mean that it should be added as per Wikipedia:External links # Blogs, social networking sites (such as MySpace) and forums should generally not be linked to unless mandated by the article itself.
it appears that They have an offical non MySpace website thus it is not mandated by the article itself and hat is why i removed it. Another key issue with MySpace is that the whole system has security issues and can harm users. Just recently the site made United States news headlines for the fact that they were infected with a virus and the site has been known to have other issues. Im not anti-MySpace but the link doesnt need to be there i can see more harm than good coming from it. Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 00:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On schools

It has long been our rule of thumb that pre-high schools are not automatically notable, and that version of the template encouraged people to make many articles that should not exist. It's inappropriate to have templates that encourage bad behaviour (although it's handy initially in helping us find articles to speedy under CSD A7), so I edited it to stop encouraging people to do bad things. --Improv 00:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

• I suppose it might've been better to blank it. I don't think the middle school or elementary school categories should exist, and that the template as it stands now encourages creation of those categories, which in turn encourages bad article creation. That needs to be prevented, one way or another, although I concur with your suggestion that blanking is better. --Improv 05:11, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I've been very clear in why I believe categories (and links to them) for middle and elementary schools should not exist. My means for doing so are the most direct way to accomplish the ends, and given our current status quo (that only high schools are encyclopedic), it seems well within accepted practice to remove categories and links to them to achieve that end. Regarding your example, the 2005 births category does not encourage confusion about project scope/notability because nobody could possibly interpret it to mean that *all* humans born in 2005 get an article. Categories for middle and elementary schools, by contrast, are more confusing because they disturb the status quo and result in many articles that need to be cleaned up (and upset people, because they get the wrong idea from the template that such things are ok here). --Improv 02:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
    • It is, by definition, not vandalism if it is done with the good of the encyclopedia in mind. Just as I speedy delete articles that have problems, and remove problematic things from userspace when I see them (sometimes blanking pages in doing so), acting with the best interests of Wikipedia is what admins are entrusted to do. Of course, as you dislike it, you've brought it to my attention and I've stopped for now (I'm talking with other people regarding what should be done), but at least until you disagreed with it and we started to talk, it was well within normal practice to act as I did. At some point if there's a larger discussion on appropriate content for the template, I'll drop you a line so you can contribute too. Take care. --Improv 02:54, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
      • I find your tone and assumptions unfortunate. If you insist that what I did was in bad faith and vandalism, I don't see us interacting productively on this issue. Bye. --Improv 02:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Nomination: Cedar High School

--TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 22:29, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Note that this school is also referred to as Cedar City High Schoo; I have sourced the alumni status of Michael Leavitt. Silensor 23:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tara

Hi Rob... we haven't bumped into each other for ages but I just noticed your edit on the new page for Tara Conner... great to finally get some free images of her (although, as usual, they are less than flatterig -- what is it about these free images that makes beauty queens look blah?) -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 01:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finger Lakes Christian School

I noticed that you were asking the closure about that AFD decision. I have requested a review at [2]. Kappa 17:21, 22 September 2006 (UTC)