Talk:Thiruppugazh

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[edit] Its a prayer

THerefore inherently POV

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Valentinejoesmith (talkcontribs) 18:26, June 15, 2006 (UTC).
No, it's not a prayer. --LambiamTalk 21:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

The original of the verse I've translated is:

வானப் புக்குப் பற்றும ருத்துக் - கனல்மேவு
மாயத் தெற்றிப் பொய்க்குடி லொக்கப் - பிறவாதே
ஞானச் சித்திச் சித்திர நித்தத் - தமிழாலுன்
நாமத் தைக்கற் றுப்புகழ் கைக்குப் - புரிவாயே
கானக் கொச்சைச் சொற்குற விக்குக் - கடவோனே
காதிக் கொற்றப் பொற்குல வெற்பைப் - பொரும்வேலா
தேனைத் தத்தச் சுற்றிய செச்சைத் - தொடையோனே
தேவச் சொர்க்கச் சக்கிர வர்த்திப் - பெருமாளே.

It's very hard to translate Tamil verse of this quality without sacrificing either meaning or form - I've tried to strike a balance with a relatively freer translation, but I must admit I'm not quite satisfied. If anyone can improve on it, please feel free to do so. -- Arvind 14:55, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Good work in improving the article. Let me try and refine the translation where possible. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 15:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
As I sat attempting to refine the translation, I felt that it's next to impossible to do so without loss of meaning. I changed "false body" to "illusory body". Feel free to revert, if inappropriate. Can "illumine" be replaced by "enlighten"? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 14:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
False -> illusory was a good change. I also agree that "enlighten" is more accurate than "illumine". -- Arvind 14:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)