Talk:Thief II: The Metal Age
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It would be helpful if this article listed the specific Windows operating system(s) Thief 2 (and all games in general) was released for, instead of just listing it as being for "Microsoft Windows." This is important historically and becomes a particularly important issue when trying to experience this game on newer machines. Thanks. RC
Kudos to Wikipedia, I did not know Thief II had a free addon!
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- Yeah, go download it! Shadowrun 20:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thief 2X Soapbox
The section portraying Thief 2X as an expansion of Thief 2 is dishonest and misleading. Thief2X has no connection to the official Thief franchise, whether through Eidos or Looking Glass, neither of which have endorsed its content. It is a mod and should be included in a separate article or section specifically titling it as such. Wikipedia is not Myspace; it is not a medium for developers to distribute and advertise their products in. I recommend this section either for deletion or for inclusion in a new section detailing the official game's many fan-made modifications. PalusSomni 16:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I've added the word 'unofficial' to the heading, which already helps a lot, but the article stills sounds slightly biased. Not sure how to clean it up. Nameless Voice 12:42, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure it should be included on the game page itself, and it would be better if it was moved. It is already mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thief_(computer_game_series) and little new information is being provided by this particular entry. Perhaps Thief mods and missions should have their own page, if they don't already. However, if it's to stay then this article ought to explicitly state in the opening few lines what it is, and it doesn't. For instance, it should say that "It is an unofficial mod, which introduces a fan-made campaign to Thief II: The Metal Age." Possibly change "a group of enthusiastic fan developers" and remove 'enthusiastic', and the expression "extend the Thief universe" could be misleading. Remove instances of "game" and perhaps replace them with "mod". This part still reads like an advert: "A patch for T2X is in development which will contain artwork updates and address bugs and other issues with the original release. This is expected Summer 2006," as does the bottom line. I don't recall the original articles on Thief and its universe including this sort of advertising or "praise". Automated hamster 13:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Leaving it as an "expansion pack" is somewhat misleading also, I think, for the same reasons. T2X skirts the line between mod and total conversion. It is only an expansion in the sense that it expands on the Thief universe for its own purposes and that's not the typical understanding of 'expansion pack' in my experience. According to the history this section was its own article but was merged for being too small. I agree that if its to stay it will have to be made smaller and more part of the article (as it stands its the best referenced part!). It's something I plan on attending to if no one else gets there first. MuJoCh 19:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Version without cutscenes
I purchased as version of the game (a "full" version included with an issue of Computer Gaming World) and when it ran there were no cutscenes setting up the missions. I remember playing my brother's original copy and it too had no cutscenes. Is it worth noting that some editions of this game lack these sequences? 68.145.238.33 20:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- Check the disk. It's unimaginable that the briefings would be excluded from a legitimaate copy. The game wouldn't make any sense at all without them. However codec problems often make the game skip playing them and go straight to the mission. They should play fine in Media Player outside the game. If they don't even play in MP there ought to be an installer for the Indeo codec on the disk (normally it's installed along with the game). MuJoCh 13:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, the game is probably skipping them. I've had at least some mission videos get skipped, which confused the hell out of me (all worked fine in media player however). I always thought it was a bug in the game. Python 06:03, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- There are well-documented problems with the cutscenes in modern versions of Windows. Simply running regsvr32.exe lgvid.ax from your Thief dir, or running it with the full path of lgvid.ax from elsewhere, will sort the problem and make the cutscenes play again. You may have to do this every time you start the game.
- Launching Thief through one of the Fan Mission launchers, DarkLoader or GarrettLoader, should automatically re-register the codecs for you each time you play. This information should probably be added to the article. Reference is here: http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75031#movies Nameless Voice 12:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- I beleive that kind of tech help, like game guide info, is frowned upon, but a link to helpful information is a perfectly fine addition. MuJoCh 19:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
