User:Thewayforward/The 10 Random Pages Test

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Copying Ambi's idea at here. Here's what i get:

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[edit] 19 April 2005

  1. Crafton, Buckinghamshire - its a hamlet in UK, but decent enough. Progress 6 months later: none. Progress after 17 months: none
  2. Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2005 - not out of date, well categorised. Progress 6 months later: lots. still seemingly up-to-date. Progress after 17 months: Small, probably incomplete, updates. Various wikification mark-ups.
  3. DSA Driving Theory Test - UK, i had to fix a link, maybe a bit of history could've been in there, but it was OK. Progress 6 months later: minor. External links added. Progress after 17 months: 2 extra paragraphs, 2 more Weblinks
  4. Fenton House - another British page I'm slightly familiar with (I've been there about 6 years ago). I had to wikify it, and its a stub still. Don't like the page. Progress 6 months later: stub sorted. Progress after 17 months: Image, pointless stub-sorting.
  5. Sea of No Cares - Canadian album, apparently super successfull. Meh, its pretty ok. Progress 6 months later: catted, stub sorted. Progress after 17 months: proper infobox, a few details. Been rated as "Start-class" by Album Wikiproject
  6. Clifford D. Simak - USA, poor page, probly all copied from somewhere. Progress 6 months later: huge. 3 more interlanguage links, many cats, reworded, fleshed out. Well done User:Ahasuerus. Progress after 17 months: Another paragraph, large-scale categorisation. br, cs, de, fa, gl, it, lv, uk interwikis
  7. Yazid I - Arab, hey, this looks nice, had to wikify a bit tho. Progress 6 months later: extremely good. fleshed out. NPOV not yet acceded to. Progress after 17 months: Not entirely sure about NPOV, but article been rewritten to sound smoother, fleshed out. Half a dozen new threads on discussion page, to sort out the POV.
  8. Marie-Line Reynaud - French, I know of her. And her article is acceptable for her level on notoriety (not very high). Progress 6 months later: minor edits, checkin links. Progress after 17 months: Just catting and re-stubbing.
  9. Dovre National Park - Norway, well-linked page. However, as a stub this gets a neutral mark from me. Progress 6 months later: still a stub, no progress. Progress after 17 months: Just catting and re-stubbing.
  10. Reciprocal altruism - zoology - very interesting page. Which was poorly wikified, and I could add another example to it. Progress 6 months later: subsectioned. worthwhile progress. Progress after 17 months: Someone's slapped a {cleanup} tag on and done recatting. de interwiki added
So what can we make of this? That you can learn things well. Its not too anglophone-biased (5 anglophones v 5 non-anglophones). And overall 5 good pages against 2 bad pages and 3 OK pages. So i say "nice going wikipedia"
Update on 24 October 2005, 6 months after the test: 3 articles made lots of progress, 5 just minor progress, 2 no progress at all.
Further update on 5 September, 11 months after previous progress update: 4 with decent progress, 4 with small progress, 2 which brought nothing extra into the article.

[edit] April 29 2005

  1. Eric Fingerhut - USA, bio, no interwikis. All blue links. Progress 9 months later: Addition of During his Senate campaign, he chanted "I say Finger, you say Hut, Finger-hut! Finger-hut!" made me chuckle. Sharpened cats. Minor progress
  2. Omni Trio - DnB, Rubbish page, no interwiki, 75% blue links. Progress 9 months later: Unstubbed, :de interwiki added. Satisfactory article
  3. George Callaghan - English, bio, all blue links. Progress 9 months later: Minor format
  4. Venezuelan Capital District - South America, stub, 80% blue links, interwikis. Progress 9 months later: 2 interwikis. Updated and rewritten.
  5. Vernon Carrington - awful awful stub on recently deceased dude, Israel, no cats or interwikis. Progress 9 months later: Cats and :fr interwiki added. Still is stub
  6. Cisie - Poland, stubby, seemingly noable enough to warrant more, 90+% blue links, no interwikis. Progress 9 months later: Minor. Still stubby
  7. Orchard Beach - US, disambig to substub and Rambot. Progress 9 months later: Not so much
  8. Danish National Space Center - Denmark, i changed the stub tag, 60% blue links. Progress 9 months later: 2 cats. I had to copyedit again.
  9. Agrinio, Greece, rather bland, interwikied and well categorised. Progress 9 months later: 3 interwikis, :ca, :el, :la. History added, spellings tweaked
  10. South African beer - South Africa, its alright for a stub i suppose, categorised. Progress 9 months later: Copy-editted, made nicer, cats tweaked

Conclusions: I wont do these 10 Random Pages Tests anymore. 40% on anglophone sphere. Generally not-so-good sentiments.

Update On January 27 2006: 9 months after the first test: 5 with substantial change, 3 with minor change, 2 with no (or really minor) change.

[edit] 19 August 2005

  1. Juan L. Ortiz. Puerto Rico. Stubby crap of boring guy. 0 interest. no discussion. 8 editors. 0 red links. Progress 7.7 months later: added small detail
  2. St. Kenelm - England. a saint. interest 3. No discussion. 5 editors. 20% red links. Progress 7.7 months later: minor fmt
  3. Centropomidae - fish. interesting scale of 2. no discussion. 11 editors. 2 language versions. 4% red links. Progress 7.7 months later: prettified table, 5 more interwikis
  4. Marxist-Leninist Party of Germany. Germany. Party. 1 interest. no worthwhile discussion. 4 editors. 1 language link. 0 red links. Progress 7.7 months later: quadrupled in size. he interwiki added.
  5. Phil Hansen. USA. Sportsman stub. Interest 1. no discussion. 1 editor. 0 red links. Progress 7.7 months later: doubled in size, a few cats, a bit of discussion saying the information is incorrect, but still too small
  6. Sukhoi Su-2. Soviet Union. plane stub. Interest 3. no discussion. 14 editors. 2 language links. 33% red links. Progress 7.7 months later: little more info added. small tweaks
  7. Tyrone Township. USA. Geog disambig. Interest 1. no discussion. 2 editors. 0 red links. Progress 7.7 months later: none
  8. 358 BC. Year. Interest 1. no discussion. 11 editors. 15 language links. 0 red links. Progress 7.7 months later: There is now one event, one birth and one death. 11 interwikis added
  9. Bad Oeynhausen. Germany. Townstub. Interest 2. no discussion. 2 editors. 2 language links. no red links. Progress 7.7 months later: one sentence added. 2 cats added
  10. Samuel W. Crawford. US. Military man. Interest 5. no discussion. 2 editors. 13% red links. Progress 7.7 months later: only minor, although a big chunk was added, and moved to the talk page.

This time not so good. Nothing that good found. Too many stubs. More anglophone stuff than non-anglo stuff. Wikipedia is now crap, according to this test.

Progress 7.7 months later: 2 significantly improved, 3 improved a fair bit, 2 with none or minor additions.

[edit] 9 September 2005

  1. SIGPLAN. Computers. Interest 2. Tiny discussion. 1 editor. Over 50% red link. Progress 8 months later: Just links added
  2. Taishan dialect. China. Linguistics. Interest 4. Tiny discussion. 10 editors. 6% red links. Progress 8 months later: Pretty much rewritten, :zh added
  3. University of Sussex. UK. Uni. Interest 5. No discussion. 20-odd editors. 1 language link. 10% red links. Progress 8 months later: Hell of a rewrite. I'd push this up a couple of notches. Little more discussion.
  4. Gustav Graves. James Bond. Interest 4. No discussion. 11 editors. no red links. Progress 8 months later: Rewritten. Few tags, catted up
  5. Taphonomy. Science. About life after death. Hence interest 6. No wothwhile discussion. 14 editors. German interlanguage link. Progress 8 months later: Extra paragraph, de,fr interwikis
  6. Thomas Lenk. USA. Buffy actor. Interest 2. No discussion. 4 editors. no red links. Progress 8 months later: Doubled in size, still stub, good dealing of DABbing
  7. Hellenic Football Federation. Greece. Soccer. Interest 1. No discussion. 5 editors. French interlanguage link. Progress 8 months later: Minor fixes, still stub, :nl interwiki
  8. Rhombicuboctahedron. Maths. Seems to be one of the first pages ever made. Too many long words even for a final year uni mathematician like myself. Interest 7. Small ancient discussion. 20ish editors. 5% red links. Dutch interlanguage link. Progress 8 months later: moved bits around, added image, ja,pt interwikis.
  9. Fujin (Mortal Kombat). Computer games dude. Interest (from a neutral POV) of 3. No discussion. 5 editors. No red links. Progress 8 months later: Made professional-looking, with cute infobox, cats and tags.
  10. Serin. Birds. Interest 2. no discusion. 7 editors. No red links. Progress 8 months later: Minor. lots of vandlaism reverts

Its a better bunch this time around. However, maybe its more fruitful to retest the older tests and see how the pages have improved.

Progress 8 months later: 4 major overhauls, 4 with a fair improvement, 2 with little or minor changes. This is one fo the better batches of articles.

[edit] 24 October 2005

  1. RCP (chip). computers. Interest 4. No discussion. 7 editors. 18% redlinks. Progress 9ish months later: minor
  2. John Schlitt. USA. musician. interest 2. no discussion. 3 editors. no red links. Progress 9ish months later: picture, fmt, cats, da interwiki
  3. Sin-Itiro Tomonaga (朝永振一郎). Japan. Nobel prizewinner. interest 2. Relevant discussion about naming convention. 20ish editors. No red links. 9 interlanguage links. ja:朝永振一郎 is more in-depth. Progress 9ish months later: rewrite, ka, hu, pt, sv interwikis
  4. Missouri State Highway 146. USA. transport. interest 1. no discussion. 1 editor. no red links. Progress 9ish months later: infobox
  5. Missouri State Highway 146 It's not actually this, I made a mistake while editting. Dunno who it actually was.. Missouri again. politician. interest 4. no discussion. 5% red links. 12 editors. Progress 9ish months later:
  6. Puerto Aguirre. Bolivia. interest 2.5. no discussion. 50% red links. 6 editors. Progress 9ish months later: slightly less stubby
  7. January 2004. Date. Interest 8, cos its very long. Tiny discussion. Loads of editors. 16%ish red links. 2 interlangauge links. Progress 9ish months later: fiddling about, but to be fair, I wasn't expecting much, as it is a date, th interwiki
  8. Deuteromycota. Fungi. interest 5. no discussion. no red links. 5 editors. Progress 9ish months later: infobox, cats and fr, ja interwikis.
  9. Superpower. Interest 9. decent discussion. 2% red links. Scores of editors. 6 interlanguage links. Progress 9ish months later: Loads of reworking. Who am I to judge if this is an improvement anyway? Doubled in size...not that size is all, pretty pictures, cs, da, no, nn, pl, ru, fi, zh interwikis

Maybe I struck lucky this time. These article look nicer on the whole, are structured, categorised, wikified.

9ish months later: 1 with minor changes , 5 with important ones, 2 hugely revamped/rewritten.

[edit] 7 April 2006

  1. Orangeville, Pennsylvania. USA. Rambot City. interest 2. no discussion. 8 editors (2 bots). 5% red links. Progress 7 months later: minor
  2. David Macaulay. England. Authour. interest 4. no discussion. 23 editors (3 bots). no red links. de interwiki. Progress 7 months later: minor
  3. Id (Unix). computing. interest 1. no discussion, 2 editors. no red links. Progress 7 months later: a bit, pl interwiki
  4. Atli Heimir Sveinsson. Iceland. composer. interest 2. no discussion. 5 editors (1 bot). 40% red links. Progress 7 months later: Decent additions made by User:Hebrides
  5. List of authors by name: Y. list. authours. interest 1. no discussion. 8 editors (2 bots). 11% red links. de, es, fr, pt interwikis. Scope for huge expansion. I have expanded slightly. Progress 7 months later: minor
  6. Gościęcino (PKP station). Poland. railway station. interest 1. no discussion. 1 edit(or). 9% red links. Progress 7 months later: minor
  7. CDC Classification System for HIV Infection in Children. disease. interest 6 (well-written and informative). no discussion. 4 editors. roughly 8% red links. Progress 7 months later: not been touched
  8. Nicola Fago. Italian. composer/teacher. interest 0.5. no discussion. 5 editors (3 bots). de, it interwikis. no red links. I myself could easily expand it from de and it, up to interest 3. Progress 7 months later: reshuffling, cs interwiki
  9. Guillermo Rigondeaux Ortiz. Cuba. boxer. interest 3 (twice Olympics gold medal winner). no discussion. 6 editors (1 bot). 12% red links. Progress 7 months later: Added important stuff, normalised article
  10. Rabin automaton.computer science. interest 2 (although it makes not an inkling of sense to this humble contributor). no discussion. 8 editors. no red links. Progress 7 months later: couple of external links, de interwiki

So, in summary, a random 10 pages selection still offers lots of rubbish pages. Things haven't really changed much, sadly. Progress 7 months later: 5 with just minor improvements, 3 with average, 2 greatly expanded.

[edit] 2 July 2006

  1. Sindh Agriculture University. Pakistan. interest 4. no discussion. 0% red links. 4 editors
  2. Wondo Genet. Ethiopia. interest 2. petite dicussion. 11% red links. 8 editors
  3. cable transport. transport. interest 2. no discussion. 0% red links. 13 editors
  4. Clarence Anglin. Crime. interest 2. no discussion. 12.5% red links. 2 interwikis. 15 editors
  5. Kimi No Uta. Japan. interest 2. no discussion. red linkless. 3 editors
  6. List of award-winning graphic novels. Mags. interest 3. no discussion. 9% red links. 5 editors
  7. South Wales Evening Post. Welsh magazines. interest 2.5 (I am familiar with the Wikipedia subject). no discussion. 0% red links. 15 editors.
  8. Blutengel. German band. interest 5 (a low 5). tiddly discussion. 50% red links. 17 editors
  9. Med Reventberg. Swedish actor. interest 1.5. no discussion. 0% red link. sv interwiki. 3 editors
  10. Suzanne Sugarbaker. US tv character. interest 5. no discussion. 0% red links. 3 editors

Wikipedia sucks. Fullstop.

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