Template talk:The Apprentice UK
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[edit] Inclusion in Comic Relief article
I posted the following at Talk:Comic Relief regarding my removal of the inclusion of this template there... Regarding the repeated inclusion of {{The Apprentice UK}} template by User:Dalejenkins - I see no good reason for that template to be included in this page. The template should be about connecting articles directly related with The Apprentice UK - of which Comic Relief is not. This article is about Comic Relief as a charity organisation. The role of the Apprentice in that has only been one special edition show in 2007. Imagine if every TV programme, which had ever made a Comic Relief special, were to include Comic Relief somewhere on their template - this article would be unusable! Let's not start a precedent... └UkPaolo/talk┐ 09:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Inclusion on all celebrity pages
I do not think it is appropriate for this template to be included on Cheryl Cole, Ross Kemp, Trinny Woodall, Alastair Campbell, Danny Baker, Jo Brand, Karren Brady, Piers Morgan, Maureen Lipman and Rupert Everett. Following discussion at Piers Morgan it seems the template has already been removed from that article, and I agree with that decision.
Appearance in Comic Relief Does The Apprentice in no way defines the notability of any of these individuals. The majority of people reading any of these articles will not be reading it hoping to find an easy way to navigate to other participants in that show. All of these articles mention the appearance of these individuals in Comic Relief Does The Apprentice, and add them to the category Category:Comic Relief Does The Apprentice. I think this is more than enough.
Almost all of these celebrities have appeared as guest stars in a huge number of shows. To start a precedent, and include a template for each of these shows in the celebrities articles, would be completely inappropriate.
I therefore propose removing this template from each of the articles listed above, maintaining only a link to Category:Celebrity Apprentice, and (where appropriate) a mention in the article itself. I'm posting here first in an attempt to seek consensus... └UkPaolo/talk┐ 09:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I have added a message to each of the talk pages of the celebrity articles concerned, inviting contributors to participate in a centralised discussion of this matter here. └UkPaolo/talk┐ 10:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I support the removal of the template. I found this via Rupert Everett and using him as an example it is of very minor significance to him, and yet the template is one of the most visually prominent things on his page. It's completely out of balance - I fail to see any relevance. Rossrs 10:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I absolutely agree with removing this template from the celebrity pages. In contrast to everything else that these celebrities have been involved in, this is quite minor and most certainly doesn't warrant a prominent and large template to be dumped at the bottom of the page. There is no point in having this template as the celebrities on the show are not actually known for appearing on The Apprentice. I think the templates should be removed from all of the celebrities articles. Eagle Owl 11:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Me too. I didn't know Alastair Campbell was even on the show. It is insignificant to his biography. Frelke 12:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I really feel like being bold and remove the template from pages I'm involved in, but i'll wait and see what consensus is reached on this page first. I can see however where this is leading. Eagle Owl 15:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I just wanted to add my name to the list; there's really no need to have this template on the celebrities' pages. Driller thriller 23:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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Per the above consensus, I've removed this template from the articles on the celebrities concerned └UkPaolo/talk┐ 21:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Inclusion of celebrities on template
On another note, should all of the celebrities be listed on this template? Is there actually a need? At the moment, on the template there is a link to Comic Relief Does The Apprentice, but links to all the celebrities aswell. As Comic Relief Does The Apprentice is wikified, then there is no need to link all of the celebrities as you can click on the link and find out the list from there. I see no need to have the celebs all listed on here, the template links to the articles for no apparent reason as there wouldn't be that much information about CRDTA anyway. Does anyone else think the names should be removed from the template? Thoughts? Eagle Owl 10:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- That's a bloody good idea. You're right, there's no need for them to be on there at all. Driller thriller 12:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. Particularly since I feel the template should associate articles which have that template applied, and now it has been removed from the articles on the celebrities concerned (per the above reasoning), it is no-longer appropriate to include those articles on the template. Also, the template relates to The Apprentice - a one of special edition episode is not the most notable aspect of it, yet it takes up half the space on this template, giving equal prominence to articles on The Apprentice episodes and celebrities who have really very little to do with the series. I've removed the links to the celebrities for this reason. └UkPaolo/talk┐ 21:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
