Talk:Thebes, Greece

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[edit] Modern city's name

From looking at charts and from looking at the Athens article, the modern city would be "Thíva". WhisperToMe 23:33, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Theba of Boeotia and Theba of Egypt

Why Greeks named the city "Niwt-rst" or "Waset", capital of Southern Kingdom, as "Thebae", which is the name of Boeotian city?

What was the relation between two Thebas?

--IonnKorr 20:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] D-y-q-e-i-s, I smells a rat

Deger-Jalkotzy noted that the statue base from Kom el-Hetan in Amenhotep III's kingdom (LHIIIA:1) mentioned d-y-q-e-i-s[...]

I personally know that both Linear A and Linear B, as well as Babylonian are all syllabic scripts. Egyptian doesn't write vowels. So where on earth is d-y-q-e-i-s coming from at all? What language is this claimed to be attested in?

The only alphabet systems were West Semitic but I find very odd that there is any presence of -s here when the Greek word is Thebai... in the dual, completely lacking in nominative -s. The word TE-QA in Mycenaean as far as I'm aware is not for so-called *Thegwas but *Tʰēgʷai" and we have Tʰēbai in later Classical Greek, **Thēbas. Get the grammar right. We need to resolve this confusion. What's the scoop here? --Glengordon01 05:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


Okay, I tracked down the reference but this d-y-q-e-i-s claim is not in the clear yet:

Cline, Eric. 1987. Amenhotep III and the Aegean: A Reassessment of Egypto-Aegean Relations in the 14th Century B.C. Orientalia 56: 1-37.

Upon reading this handy article which isn't very fond of Cline's hypotheses, I have to question the source. Also mentioned here.

Certainly if this d-y-q-e-i-s is supposed to be Egyptian somehow, we can be sure it's spelled wrong because there simply is no vowel "e" represented in Egyptian script! So I'm taking it out because it's smelling like a new-agey internet myth vaguely based on a source that's already questionable. When someone can find out what the actual inscription's symbol values are supposed to be, they can add it back properly in a manner that Egyptologists could be proud of. --Glengordon01 06:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)