Talk:The World (Tarot card)

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This would clearly violate the policies of Wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia, not a links page for businesses. - Parsa 08:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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The article is just personal opinions from an occult enthusiast about the nature and meaning of a particular tarot card. No peer reviewed books or journal articles are cited. No references or footnotes are given. When a new statement is added, the source needs to be cited, and the source needs to be verifiable, and reliable. Waite is not an unbiased, factual source on the history or evolution of tarot cards. The work can be cited properly, however: "Waite's opinion in his book The Pictorial Key to the Tarot ... etc" The other sources are definitely of questionable academic weight.

The card in question has a history of over 500 years in European card games in which it is used as trump card (see Tarocchi). The article is unbalanced in that it only features the recent uses of the card for divination. This makes the article biased due to its recentism. Since the article ignores use of the card for game play in Europe and other parts of the world, it offers an anglo-american perspective that raises NPOV issues. There are academic sources and sources from international organizations discussing the history and evolution of the "World" card as well as its use in games. Such sources need to be utilized. - Parsa 08:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Here is why I disagree: despite any gaming heritage, the modern use of the tarot cards is clearly an occult phenomenon. People make their living reading fortunes off them, but the gaming aspect is all but non-exsistant in an current context. While I will certainly agree that the body of many tarot articles needs substantial improvement, I think pretending their signifigance is not occult (at least so far as the average encyclopedia reader is concerned) is detrimental over-all. (Copied from Talk:Knight of Swords (Tarot card)) --mordicai. 05:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

This seems an almost hollywood-like view on the subject.

If we do not include everything about a subject, we are not viewing it with a NPOV. Highcount. 11:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The gaming aspect is anything but non-existant. This is where you are wrong. Tarot cards games are still currently played and there are currently efforts to have these games imported outside Europe. The occult signifigance of tarot cards lies only in the minds of occultists and those who take what they claim at face value.Smiloid 02:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC) The occult is not the only modern use of tarot cardsSmiloid 02:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)