Talk:The Wizard (film)

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Contents 1 "Game Errors" and Trivia 2 Beta Game? 3 Final Round Scores 4 Ninja Gaiden 5 Score of 50,000 on Double Dragons. 6 Autism 7 Error

[edit] "Game Errors" and Trivia

Okay, I cleaned out a LOT of the "game errors". Most of them are just boring. Some don't take into account that the movie probably isn't showing every second of the game (so it doesn't take him 5 seconds to beat the "high score", it takes 10 minutes...and they cut out 9 minutes 55 seconds). And some are just audio sync mistakes. And some were STILL copyvio from another list of these mistakes (the guy who made that list is a friend of mine, for the record. He took that list down, in part because parts of it kept showing up here).

A lot of the trivia I got rid of too.

I left the ones I felt were at least interesting, that were clear-cut errors or that I could check out myself and see were truly mistakes (I own all the games mentioned in the movie except Ninja Gaiden). To keep the list from growing out of control again, new additions should probably be posted on the talk page first, then added in later. Just a thought.

--UsaSatsui 08:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

• * One of the more obvious errors is that despite the fact that the unveiling of Super Mario Bros. 3 to the public occured for the final round of Video Armageddon, Haley shouts to Jimmy to use the warp whistle despite the fact that she couldn't possibly know what the item was or what its effects were. It is possible that the whistles were eluded to in a "Power Magazine" that Haley got for Jimmy earlier in the movie, but nothing points to this officially.

Not convinced about the validity of this one. I can see her saying that without knowing just what it is, expecially if you have that annoying announcer jabbering about it. --UsaSatsui 00:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• * There were difficulties synchronizing the film speed with the video games, due to the differences in speed. Film runs at 24 frames/second, and the games ran at 60 frames/second.

This used to be 30 frames per second, someone changed it to 60 frames per second. I'm pretty sure 30 is the right number, but I'm not sure. I'm pulling it out until it gets a source anyways. UsaSatsui 11:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beta Game?

I think it'd possible that Super Mario Bros. 3 could've been a beta tested game, where some of the rules were changed.

[edit] Final Round Scores

Since Super Mario Bros 3 was drawn as a new prototype game in this movie, it is reasonable to accept that scores used in this tournament wouldn't reflect the scoring system that would be found on our good ole' commercially found version.

Specifically, in this kind of tournament (as happens in real life), special tournament editions of games can be licenced and created with special scoring and gameplay.

The idea of only using specific levels from the game in a tournament is not far fetched at all... and would definately explain the supposed mis-naming of the levels.

-Jon

jon@jonivy.com

[edit] Ninja Gaiden

Incidentally, the level he was playing was the very first level of the game, so getting through the first part without taking a hit isn't much of an accomplishment.

This seems to ignore the first sentence, which indicates that Jimmy's already completed the entire game and is playing through it again, from the first level.

"[...]it's his second time through and he hasn't even taken a hit yet!"

I'm going to remove it.

68.9.205.10 17:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Many people (including movie critic Roger Ebert) blasted this movie for the scene where Sam plays Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, as he says he was on level three but they cut to him on the first level. However, what these people didn’t notice was that Sam said he "almost beat MechaTurtle", so it's possible he might have died and started over.

i really doubt roger ebert blasted the movie for THAT reason, since the man has time and time again proclaim his lack of knowledge about videogames and his lack of interest in them in general.

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5/16/06

Although Ebert had plenty of other more important issues with the movie, he does mention the fact with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in the final paragraph of the review on his site. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19891215/REVIEWS/912150304/1023

Added by wil2197

[edit] Score of 50,000 on Double Dragons.

I deleted the following: "(In actual fact, a score of 50,000 in that game is not impressive for someone who is a master at video games. However, it is presumably his first time playing this game.) "

I am new to Wikipedia so I don't know if this really constitutes a violation of neutral POV but I don't think this aside has anything to add to the article. Do we have a "master of video games" who can provide some support for this claim? Presumably this was posted by someone who has gotten higher than 50,000 on Double Dragons and considers themselves a video game master who can speak for all video game masters.

• Well, the movie implies that this is something insanely difficult to do. In fact, anyone who has played a video game could probably reach that mark easily. Still, a lot of that info probably doesn't need to be there. I think I'll trim it a bit. --UsaSatsui 07:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm new as well, though I grew up playing the NES from age 5 in 1985 so I can confirm it's legit, it just takes focus. 50,000 points in Double Dragon for NES is fairly possible and somewhat difficult. The easiest method was using the repeated 'headbutt' on oppenets as it rewarded the highest points per attack though getting to approximately Level 4 was required as it was dictated by the number of enemies which to beat up. 7/6/06

[edit] Autism

Is there a source to prove Jimmy is autistic? One part of the article claims he is, and another says his symptoms are autistic like.--Iamstillhiro1112 19:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

He's certainly not autistic. He wasn't born that way, it happened after his sister drowned in the river (he wasn't supposed to be down there, so he blamed himself, I guess). Possiby PTSD? I'll change it later. --UsaSatsui 23:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I would just leave out him having a condition name and mention that he had a tramatic experience.--Iamstillhiro1112 23:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

There. I went with "emotionally disturbed", that's what's on the back of the DVD box. --UsaSatsui 10:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I removed that last autism reference. I still don't think this resembles autism. I remember him being quiet but I don't remember anything else that makes me think of autism. I know autistic people myself.--Iamstillhiro1112 00:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

He was also withdrawn and spent most of his time either "off in his own world" or building things. Maybe that's where the refrence came from. --UsaSatsui 07:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Error

This shows the actors were not playing the games themselves, but most likely all the TVs were hooked up to the same NES and someone was playing them off-screen. Uhh.....it would make more sense that the game was recorded to a VCR and the TVs were running the playback. I've changed the statement to reflect this. -- Jelly Soup 10:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)