Talk:The Twilight of the Idols

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Gotzen-Dammerung sounds a lot like Gotterdammerung, the opera created thirty-odd years before. Is there any connection there?

Yes. The connections between Götterdämmerung and Götzendämmerung are huge. The former is the name of an opera (the conclusion of Wagner's Ring Cycle), meaning Twilight of the Gods. Nietzsche's title is an intentional play on Wagner and means Twilight of the Idols. Nietzsche and Wagner were close friends at for a while, but N became dissilusioned with W when W became openly anti-semitic. He also had little patience with W's apparent capitulation to mainstream Christianity in the opera Parzifal.

Incidentally, this article on Twilight of the Idols needs a lot of work. Full of Nazi ideology? Gimme a farking break. Have you read the book?

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I put some meat in this article. My additions state where Nietzsche said those things, so that anyone who wants to know if they're true, and I'm not merely interpreting, can check them out for themselves.

By the way, I did study Nietzsche twice or maybe thrice as a Sociology major, maybe that gives me more credibility. Moonwalkerwiz 02:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks like Moonwalkerwiz already improved this quite a bit. I just tried to edit a bit for objectivity of language. Not a bad summary right now. Teaforthetillerman 18:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)