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Contents 1 Expletive included 2 "Let Me Go the Right Way" 3 Supremes/Primettes name 4 June 28, 1967 5 Ballard's final appearance on a Supremes single 6 Biased? 7 someday we will be together?

[edit] Expletive included

Someone has put two expletives into this article in the section "The New Supremes". I'm sure they don't belong there.

I read the section; I don't see janything. Perhaps it was already removed? --FuriousFreddy 18:23, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

OOPs, sorry. Yeah I removed the expletives but neglected to read this page until today. The strange thing about it was that on the edit page the expletives didn't show up at all but they did appear on the article. The words appeared to have been encoded in the chart position in parentheses after the song title up a ldder to the roof. I'm not sure what the encoding might have been but I just copied the phrase to a plain text editor and copied it back and it deleted the expletives. 12:37 pm 29 March 2005

[edit] "Let Me Go the Right Way"

Florence Ballard sings lead on the studio version of "Let Me Go the Right Way." Ross|Diane Ross]]-led version is a live recording from a Motortown Revue performance; the single mix of "Let Me Go The Right Way" was recorded before the Motown artists left for the tour.

See review of song at allmusic.com [1]:

I have copies of both versions; the studio version is the one that was released as the single.

--User:B Touch 19:06, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wait. Maybe this IS Diane Ross singing this. According to Motown, "Buttered Popcorn" is the only single to feature Ballard, so I'll just take the attribtuion out for now. --b. Touch 06:08, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Supremes/Primettes name

The Supremes only recorded one single as The Primettes: "Tears of Sorrow" (with its b-side being "Pretty Baby."). This record was recorded for Lupine in 1960; the four girls signed with Motown on January 15, 1961 as the Supremes. The name change occured a few days before their signing (at Berry Gordy's behest) and before any of their records were released. The first Motown single the girls put out, "I Want a Guy" (recorded in late 1960 when they were still the Primettes, but not released under that name) bills them as the Supremes. All singles and albums thereafter follow the same. In fact, their first album was issued in 1962, and was called Meet the Supremes.

As a primary reference, please see both Dreamgirl by Mary Wilson. --b. Touch 05:40, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] June 28, 1967

Page 267 of Mary Wilson's Dreamgirl: My Life as a Supreme book lists the date of the Flamingo Hotel engagement as having occured from June 28, 1967 - July 19, 1967. Both this text and Gerald Posner's Motown book mention that Ballard was fired after the first show. Page 203 of the Wilson book lists an inprecise July as the general date; Since a paragraph on page 204 also sets up a time period of "That July", it is probably a simple mistake. The June 28 date corrabates with the date given on this article [2], as Ballard was actually fired during the early-morning hours of June 29. Please do not change this, July 23 is incorrect. --b. Touch 06:45, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ballard's final appearance on a Supremes single

As per Mary Wilson and page 208 of Dreamgirl: My Life As a Supreme, "Reflections" is the last Supremes A-side single (and the only "Diana Ross & the Supremes" era single) to feature Florence Ballard. This is incorrect, as "In And Out Of Love" was recorded with Ballard.

2. IN AND OUT OF LOVE Produced by Brian Holland and Lamont Dozier Track recorded in L.A. April 20, additional overdubs in Detroit June 12 and 13 and July 7, 1967 Working Title: SUMMER GOOD, SUMMER BAD Released as a single October 25, 1967 Included on the album REFLECTIONS (March 1968)

Please note: Ballard sings on "Reflections," and "In And Out Of Love." Barry White was quoted as saying that he was in the recording studio--sneaked in--while "Forever Came Today" was being recorded.

There is strong evidence that "Forever Came Today" was Ballard's last song? It was noted in "All That Glittered" that Wilson's voice was not considered suitable for the above song, so, Ballard's voice was used and multi-tracked. However, Ballard's voice can also be heard on "Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In" album on "Let The Music Play." The immediately above is stated in the Public Domain.

[edit] Biased?

I'm not really in full support of the idea that this article is that good. While, historically it is a good presentation of the facts about the group, I feel that it does nothing to give credit to Diana Ross's talents or accomplishments and again, as most pieces do, paints Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard as poor victims as those with the real talent who were sadly stepped on and made inconsequential by Ross via Gordy's ambition and their affair. Anyone agree?

I don't agree, at all. There is no bias for or against Ross, Ballard, or Wilson; the article simply states verifiable fact. The article doesn't intentionally paint either Wilson nor Ballard as a victim. What happened to Ballard is accurately retold here. It is true Ballard felt pushed aside; whether she actually was or not is uncertain and therefore not mentioned. Also, at no time does the article discuss Wilson's personal feelings about the Supremes). The article acknowledges that Ross' presence upfront was an important element of its success, which is very true. As far as Ross' accomplishments, this article focuses on The Supremes as a group, as it should (aolthough there probably should be some mention of Ross' solo career). To add several paragraphs of gushing praise for Diana Ross would actually add a bias that the article currently lacks. --FuriousFreddy 04:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] someday we will be together?

is that song based on the classical music Canon in D major? i heard a song that is based on that tune. i am not sure though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.3.237.194 (talk • contribs) 13:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC).