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[edit] edit explanation

I want to explain what I did...24.10.125.76's edits gave the wrong dates to things (not 64.169.92.35 as I originally said, sorry), so I wanted to fix that up. Other people had edited since then, so I couldn't just roll it back, and I hope I didn't miss anything. Adam Bishop 02:50, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Covers and B-Sides Section

Is it possible that someone could add information for the following covers and B-Sides that were left out? I know there are more than these, as well (PLEASE ADD OTHERS!):

-Yellow Ledbetter (Pearl Jam) --Alex 18:46, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] non-album songs

I keep adding the titles to two songs that the Strokes used to play downtown, Clear Skies and Babies. I even have the recording for Clear Skies, so stop removing the information.

[edit] live album

just want oyu to know: the live album is cancelled. it is not going to be realesed.

but "clampdown" (clash cover) thta where goinfg to be on it is going to be on "the end has no end" single.

someone who is good at writing please edit. see here: http://www.nme.co.uk/news/109892.htm

[edit] bob marley

Influences - Bob Marley ?!? I mean I'm sute they may love his music to some extent, but I would not list it as an influence!


yeah, i think it is a bit extreeme. I think it should me removed. Some says some of the songs on the room on fire album has some reage influece, but it is not that much and reagge is not bob marley alone. User:Pyramide

  • I agree with you, and took it off myself while adding Television, who is a clear influence to the band. -Nathew

they don't sound like the velvet underground AT ALL, they're still an influence

  • The 'modern age' sounds alot like 'i'm waitin for my man'...two famous songs by each band so, yeah, the VU comparisons are apt. Mike850

[edit] Singles

The Modern Age never was a single. Just an EP. Hard to explain was first released in 2001 (before the lastnite single, just check thestrokes.com), but was re-released in Ireland as a special edition something in 2002.

Anyone?

Pyramide 21:33, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

allmusicguide.com calls it a single.. but you're right, it was a 3 song EP. I don't know the difference between a 3 song EP and a single, but technically you're correct. Sorry. Rhobite 00:40, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)


'Someday' links to Mariah Carey's album.


[edit] Influences

I don't know about some of the bands listed as influences... as the Bob Marley comment said, they may very well like The Doors, and Slash is in one of their videos, but I don't know how directly this translates into their musical influences. The sound doesn't really manifest itself in their songs... I'd be more inclined to list bands like The Stooges, or The Fall, or Wire than Pearl Jam, Slash, etc. If anyone agrees, I'd say take down those last few influences. And if no one cares, then I'll do it.

I erased TELEVISION as an influence, since Nick Valensi once said that he didn't know tom verlaine's band untill the media started to compare them. On another note, I added Bob Marley, since the band stated that it influenced Room On Fire, specially the song Automatic Stop, called "Ragga" during the recording. CHINO.


  • Just because Nick didn't know them doesn't mean other members didn't either. I added it back before I saw your comment, but I think it is a good idea to keep it on there. I think Nardwuar brought up some similarities in his interview with the band, but I don't remember whether they admitted a Television influence or not, and I don't have sound on my computer right now, so go here and check out the interview for yourself. -Nathew
  • Television is definatly not and influence, it is a coinsidence that they sound similar and system of a down is an influence on nick valensi in first impressions its quoted is several print and broadcast interviews. Squashedpanda

[edit] Quotes

I removed the quotes/lyrics section. Quotes belong on Wikiquote - their selection in encyclopedia articles is inherently pov. Rhobite 00:50, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] The Leak

Before I joined, I decided to add the little ditty about Juicebox. Yeah, that was me.

What I've learnt about First Impressions Of Earth is that, indeed, the album will put more production into the mix, and the guitar will be more harder. Remember Pinkerton? FIOE will get the same treatment-harder rock. User:zel_rogero

Don't advertise the entire album leak, people are gonna start downloading and all sorts or drama will erupt. --Ultrasound 23:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

Man, they rock. Juicebox is GREAT, You Only Live Once is also GREAT. Two Thumbs Up! BTW, Julian Casablancas' voice is damn cute. - by the no.1 fan of The Strokes


Their new cd is shit compared to their last two.

  • agreed, and ROF was shit compared to ITI. They should quit while they're ahead. Mike850

[edit] "The Magical Time Foreseeing Powers of Wikipedia"

"On February 27th, 2006, The Strokes performed on Letterman"

This appeared at some point before 23:23 (GMT) 25th of February. Work it out

According to this, "The Strokes (CD, "First Impressions of Earth")" will be appearing on the Monday, February 27 show of Letterman. That page also lists the next five guests. It's possible that the person who added the statement was trying to avoid statements that date quickly. If they'd written it in the future tense, it would be correct for the day or so between when it was added and the actual event, when they'd have to go back and edit it to the past tense. Jude(talk,contribs) 00:16, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Juliet Joslin

I removed the link to Juliet Joslin (under the heading "room on fire") because it just links back to the original article, even though the URL appears in my browser as ../wiki/Juliet_Joslin.

See for yourself: Juliet Joslin

64.110.246.116 07:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eerily?

'Eerie', the root for the adverb eerily, means "strange, weird, or fear-inspiring," as in, "The eerie sounds seemed to come from the graveyard after midnight" (From Wiktionary). I hope no one feels Casablancas's vocals are fear-inspiring. I suggest that this should be changed to a word without the negative connotation, but what word should be used instead? Some suggestions: surprisingly, peculiarly, very

Possibly changing the wording to something like "the similarity between Lou Reed's and Julian's vocals seems uncanny"?

Muéro 08:07, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plural vs. Singular verb

Proper nouns which are plural in form take a plural verb in both American and British English. Examples:

British English: "The Clash are a well-known band." American English: "The Clash is a well-known band." Both: "The Beatles are a well-known band."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differences_between_American_and_British_English#Singular_and_plural_for_nouns

[edit] Tidy up

I've tidied up the paragraph which starts "During November and December 2005...". It was a bit of a mess, with no capitals for city names etc. I wonder though, if this paragraph should be in here at all? Your thoughts? Willnz0 01:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] contemporaries and influences

I think both of these sections are not necessary and are debatable. Moreso the contempories, so I have removed that for now. If anyone would like to put in their two cents as to why it should or shouldn't be in the article feel free to do so.

PrettyMuchBryce 23:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Weezer, lol. No VU on the list, lol. Mike850 14:48, January 07 EST



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I added a short paragraph about their recent Rolling Stone show which was worth mentioning. I also created a page for the song "You Only Live Once" since they've performed it on Radio1 BBC, Top of the Pops, Saturday Night Live, The Tonight Show, and Late Night with Conan O' Brien. Also the B-Side for Heart in a Cage is a demo of it. It seems like it will be the next single, if not, it's still worht mentioning.

[edit] Americentric

This article seems to take for granted that Is This It and The Modern Age were first released in the UK and makes no mention of the band's earlier success there. Jonathan F 01:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

If you can provide any links to information about The Strokes very early on in the UK, or can even provide anecdotal evidence so that others can investigate, please add that information here. You're right that more clarity is needed in the first paragraph about Is This It regarding the different release dates and different covers between the UK and North America. Most of the information is there, but it needs to be re-ordered. The article only needs to mention the band's (slightly) earlier success in the UK (assuming this is true; evidence is needed) if it was significant. For example, if the hype in the UK led to more hype in the US, or if the bidding war was mostly as a result of the success in the UK, then this is indeed relevant and significant. But unless evidence is provided, I see no reason to believe that the earlier "success" in the UK was a result of anything more than earlier release dates. I'm not saying you're wrong; I'm just saying some citations are needed. Muéro 04:02, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Murderdolls? someone fix this please

[edit] Early years

I was checking some recent changes to the Early years section, and I noticed that it doesn't seem to be in any order. It has Nikolai joining the band at age 19 before Julian is sent to boarding school at age 13. I would try to fix it, but I don't really have any knowledge on how the band met and got started. Also, this section does not have any sources, and it would be nice to have verifiable information. --Muéro 18:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

The Strokes are most definently not indie rock because they are a part of a major record label. I believe we should just take indie rock off of there. MLSmateo 11:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and indie rock is most definetly not defined by whether a band's record label is independent or not any more. As you'll discover by reading the indie rock article. They're indie rock as most people would understand it. Ezenden 17:23, 31 August 2006 (BST)
Fuck that, defining a music genre by whether a band are or are not signed to a major label is absurd, same with defining it by being "alternative", without saying what exactly they are alternative to, and that they are in fact part of the mainstream. Only British and Americans can came up with this stupid market oriented genre definitions. Maybe this is a discussion that would be more appropriate for another articule... but i just want to say that the only genre definitions that i consider correct for this band are Post-punk revival and/or Garage rock/Garage rock revival. To hell with poverty! 10:40, 6 September 2006

Ya, I think that defining indie rock band as one that is not signed to a major record label is a very simple and correct. The definition of independent is at the core of this. The Strokes are owned by RCA. RCA controls everything they distribute. RCA tells Julian what to wear. THIS IS NOT INDEPENDENT. --MLSmateo 00:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Music should not be about who owns who, it should be about what or how you are playing. Pixies played folk and surf influenced punk rock... i think that's a more precise definition of what the (THWP and thedid/do... if you say they were/are an "indie" band my answer would be "yes, but i asked about there music not their contractual situation with a major label". Same with The Strokes, it's not about Julian being told by RCA, or his wife or his mother what to wear (though i really doubt that anyone tells the band how to dress or what to play... you've got to give them more credit than that); its about the music they play, that's what should matter in the genre section... if you want to pursue the argument of whether the band is or isn't an "indie" band, please create a "Contractual Situation" section to do so. To hell with poverty! 12:18, 7 September 2006

You are a lost cause. --MLSmateo 06:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Nah... i just don't have anything better to do... To hell with poverty! 19:42, 7 September 2006
I totally agree with you all. Good choice of not naming The Strokes "indie rock" JoeyGWilliams 05:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 12:51 Roland-esque Guitar Tone

Acording to [1], Valensi found his 12:51 guitar tone by experimenting with the his tone knob and playing jazz riffs, not by accident. so I changed it.--Furste 23:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Myspace page isn't official!

The Strokes myspace is not official, it is not run by the band's management or anyone connected to the band, its misleading to call it offical. Please stop changing it.

[edit] Matteo Romano

There was an episode of Rage where the Strokes guest programmed, and one of the programmers was some guy named Matteo Romano. Also, Fab wasn't programming then. Was Romano the original drummer or something? - Ndrly 10:51, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Ramano played beacause fab had a broken arm which he got while on tour in europe.

[edit] New album?

There is an album listed in the discography article, stating that apparently they'll release a new album entitled 'Ideas On the Sky' in Dec 2007 (and Jan 07 in the US, which obviously isnt true). Cant seem to find this anywhere on the net and there are no links to cite this. Remove? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.108.40.189 (talk) 02:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Commercial

This is the first time I've ever posted on Wikipedia so if this is not the place to ask, my apologies. I have been looking everywhere for a commercial that I know I've seen the Strokes in around 2002 or 2003. It was just after I had heard Last Nite in school (which was definitely 2002)... I'm pretty sure it was a credit card commercial, but since I can't find any documentation on this I am probably a little off. Any help finding this or an article about it? Thanks. RoxyMoron

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