Talk:The Streets of Tanasbourne
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[edit] Notability
Does anyone think this article should continue to exist? What is notable about this mall? —EncMstr 07:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- I cleaned it up some last night but it needs more. I think it does meet notability guidlines since there are articles here, here, here, and even a OSU student project business analysis Analysis here. And if I were to search the Oregonian's archives there would probably be an article or two there. Aboutmovies 14:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Other sources for info here.
- Notability aside, is the list of vendors encyclopedic? I know the mall articles tend to have these things, but they sure bug me. I can see listing the anchor stores, but the rest seems like advertising, is subject to change and the info can easily be found at the mall's website. I don't suppose there's a WikiProject Malls or something with style guidelines about this? Katr67 16:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- While I was reading your comment, it occurred to me a way to handle this is to omit shops which are present in virtually all malls and replace with [N standard mall shops] where N is the number omitted, and is wikilinked to a List of standard mall stores. The list should be oriented toward—well—notable shops. —EncMstr 16:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Notability aside, is the list of vendors encyclopedic? I know the mall articles tend to have these things, but they sure bug me. I can see listing the anchor stores, but the rest seems like advertising, is subject to change and the info can easily be found at the mall's website. I don't suppose there's a WikiProject Malls or something with style guidelines about this? Katr67 16:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I looked at Aboutmovies's links: They aren't brimming with notability justification. (They do make me think of linking it to Californication. :-) Two are press releases; the third has nice content, but it was written September 2003, more than a year before the mall opened. The student analysis lacks context and purpose, though it does hint at how retailers target teen dollars. Are there any references which are more persuasive? I'm thinking something along the lines of Washington Square (Oregon) assertion that it is one of the highest grossing malls (that should be in the introduction—I'll go fix it). —EncMstr 17:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Looking through the Oregonian archives I found about 8 articles since August 2006 that mention/talk about SoT in as little as one sentence to up to a small section. As to claims of fame such as "largest shopping center in Hillsboro" there are none, but that is not needed for notability. If SoT was a company, then those guidelines would need something like that, but SoT is a place owned by a company much as the Fox Tower is a place owned by a company. Both commercial. Since there is no "mall" noteability guideline that I could find (I was trying to find one for bridges the other day), I think the general notability guidelines should be used, which SoT meets by the press coverage it has received (PUTTING A FACE ON A SKELETON, Oregonian 10/21/04; THE STREETS OF TANASBOURNE, Oregonian 10/7/04; HILLSBORO MALL PROJECT RELAUNCHES Oregonian 2/3/03). Also, if there are not articles already, from the press coverage on shopping I was browsing through Wash Sq., Clack TC, Bridgeport in the PDX metro should all have an article (didn't see anything for Llyod Center but it should have one due to the Lloyd Corp v. Tanner SCOTUS case).
- However, I agree it does need clean-up which I started a few days ago. Does someone want to look through a few mall articles and see what is generally included? Aboutmovies 08:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- I looked at Aboutmovies's links: They aren't brimming with notability justification. (They do make me think of linking it to Californication. :-) Two are press releases; the third has nice content, but it was written September 2003, more than a year before the mall opened. The student analysis lacks context and purpose, though it does hint at how retailers target teen dollars. Are there any references which are more persuasive? I'm thinking something along the lines of Washington Square (Oregon) assertion that it is one of the highest grossing malls (that should be in the introduction—I'll go fix it). —EncMstr 17:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
