Talk:The Squirrels

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I dont wish to offend the person who worked hard on this article, but it seems very much to be a fans point of view, especialy the part at the end of the first history chapter, about the heccelers. -Happyhaydn

Sorry. I've tried to tweak it a bit so as to read less like a magazine article & just state the facts. Rest assured that everything in it is true, though, & can be documented elsewhere in print & online. Still, I apologize for my lack of knowledge on how this all works... I hope it's more to your liking now. -me

I actualy prefer personal articles for reading, its just things are ment to be kept factual here. i am a terible writer myself, but i like just adding little bits of missing info. i am prety new on here mysele. -haydn

I hope he won't mind my blowing his cover, but the anonymous edits here are presumably from Rob Morgan himself (I dropped him a note that I'd written this), so it's not so much fan-writing as autobiography. (I hope that what I originally wrote doesn't come off as too fannish, though I will readily confess to being a fan.) I'll take a shot at it, hoping we can get consensus on POV: Rob, I'm sure you will understand that there is a difference between encyclopedia-writing and fanzine writing. On a topic like this, we try not to be as dry as Britannica, but it's equally important that the article keeps a tone that fits in with the rest of Wikipedia.

FWIW (and I realize this is not citable) Rob is right that in the legendary 999 incident, there were only relatively few hecklers (although they were all right down front): Mark Arm's version exaggerates the reality. Whatever else there is to this, I think Rob deserves credit for denying that he was "so punk" that he fearlessly played an entire set to an angry mob of 500. As they say in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence, "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." At least we have an attribution for the legend.

Rob, we're allowed to cite what people say about themselves (ideally in print, but even on their own web site) as their version of events in which they were involved. If you have any interest in writing your own version of the incident on your own site, we can then quote it as your version of events.

Meanwhile, I'll take another pass through and try to make sure the narrative voice stays relatively neutral. Happyhaydn, have a look when I'm done and see if you'd be willing to remove the NPOV tag, or be more specific about any problems you feel remain. -- Jmabel | Talk 21:26, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Great, i have removed it now. Handy that you could quote him then. -haydn

[edit] Line-up

A more definitive line-up of members past and present could help make this article look more professional —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.218.13.60 (talk • contribs) 3 Jan 2006.

The problem is that it would be so massive. Rob Morgan, who is himself an accomplished fanzine writer, tries to sort it out on the Squirrels own site, and even he simplifies it a bit. If people really think it would be useful, we could certainly add this, but I think that the few people who would ever care are likely to go look at the group's own site. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC)