Talk:The Silver Chair

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Contents 1 Parliament of Owls 2 Synopsis too short 3 Christian parallels?! 4 Green Kirtle witch/Jadis 5 Chapters 6 Prince Rilian the Disenchanted

[edit] Parliament of Owls

"... Initially, Jill and Eustace are aided by a Parliament of talking owls (a pun on Chaucer's Parlement of Foules). ..."

Was it specifically a pun on Chaucer, or on the fairly-well-known collective noun for owls? (For which, Chaucer was maybe the creator?) —wwoods 05:43, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Synopsis too short

The synopsis leaves out a major section of the story, from the time they leave Narnia for the lands of the North until they find Rilian. It doesn't describe the trip north, including the dumb giants of the near-north, the mountains, the great bridge, and the more intelligent but just as cruel giants of Harfang, the "UNDER ME" mystery, nor the tumble to the Underland, the trip on the sunless sea, and the adventure of entering the city of gnomes to find Rilian. I haven't read the book in some time, but I do remember that much. Really, that's most of the book, I think. All it describes here (in contrastingly great detail) are the events at the very beginning and very end of the book. C'mon, people! In place of just complaining, though, I'll try to throw in a bit to round it out.

I even think they encountered a dragon in their trip north before reaching Harfang, but I can't remember for sure. That is another reference to add to the dragon entry in "List of Narnian creatures" if it is true. --Cromwellt|Talk 02:57, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christian parallels?!

You're getting obssesive, people. I think that spotting any hardly visible connection with Jesus is funny: I myself can't see any true connections between The Silver Chair and Christianity; and quoting John 6:44 is plainly silly, you could find a chapter in Bible corresponding to any cultural fact you can imagine, including Ozzy Osbourne and Bhagavadgita. I guess you could find some similarities between The Silver Chair and Buddhism, Taoism or Grand Chair Manufacturers of Britain, but - what for? Could we just delete the section? Come on, admit it, there are no TRUE parallels, the only one exist in heads of blind and humorless Christian fundamentals. In half of books I know there's a motif of temptation, a struggle between good and evil and so on. Say, Crime and Punishment. And there's a hell lot of Christian parallels in Dostoyevski's work, if you ask me. Delete the section, pleaze, it's becoming far too absurd. 213.17.152.100 18:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Green Kirtle witch/Jadis

Most of this section is wrong, unless my copy of The Silver Chair is radically different from the one used by the writer here. It is not the GKW who recites the "Under Me" couplet, but the mysterious Knight (Prince Rilian); the Green Witch is not even present at this meeting, so certainly does not display any reluctance to discuss the matter further. --Captain Pedant|Talk 09:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chapters

I think the chapter listings for the Chronicles of Narnia books should be removed. I started a discussion at Talk:The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe#Chapters--roger6106 03:49, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Consider it done. They are unneccessary. b_cubed 03:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prince Rilian the Disenchanted

WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? The phrase Prince Rilian the Disenchanted is never mentioned in the book. Someone change his title at the end of the summary. Thank you. 71.38.213.104 18:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, but it is. I'm afraid I don't have my books handy, but it is so dieclared at the end of The SIlver Chair. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)