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[edit] Picollo

I assume the word picollo in the text should be piccolo.

It should, and now it is. --Camembert

[edit] Ballet score

"The Rite of Spring is a ballet score"

- I know what you mean, but isn't this slightly specialized language? I alwyas think of the physical score, the actual book, rather than the piece of music, when I read that. Would you consider a reword?? Thanks Nevilley 20:50 Feb 15, 2003 (UTC)

I've had a go. Better? --Camembert
Yes, much, thanks! :) Nevilley 01:28 Feb 16, 2003 (UTC)
Excellent piece on Rite of Spring. I changed the word "claque" since that always means "applauders" or, "Clappers" who are planted to show support. Hope you don't mind it being edited prior to discussion, it seemed minor, but unclear as it stood. Calicocat 22:56, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Article name

Should this article have the name Le sacre du printemps? -Acjelen 21:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is far better known to the English-speaking world as The Rite of Spring, and should be named such in the english section of the encyclopedia. Moltovivace 23:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I disagree. I find Le sacre du printemps is used much more frequently than its English counterpart in scores, performances, and in academic discourse. I don't believe the article should necessarily be retitled from The Rite of Spring. However, the commonness of its French title is given short shrift by its placement within the translation parenthesis. A sentence such as "The Rite of Spring, commonly referred to by its original French name, Le sacre du printemps" would be much more honest to this issue.Anderfreude 04:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
No one has seen my suggestion to be problematic, so I changed it.Anderfreude 04:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "According to some sources"

According to some sources, Stravinsky described the performance as "execrable" and thought the segment as a whole "involved a dangerous misunderstanding".

This is from the liner notes for Stravinsky's own recording of the piece and was published as being copyrighted under his name, transcribed from an interview. As such, it is more than mere reportage. Richard K. Carson 07:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Since no one has complained about the above comment, I have tweaked this section. Richard K. Carson 06:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recordings

I wonder if there could a section about notable recordings. The only recording mentioned is the one by Stravinsky himself. Atavi 11:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Preferred wording?

  • "there are many different translations of the original titles; the ones given are Stravinsky's preferred wording." I had to tag this as needing a citation. Why would Stravinksy's "preferred wording" be in English? And why are the French titles no given? A reader might think this ballet was written in English.--Hraefen Talk 20:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
I think what they mean is that it is his preferred translation into English since when changing languages, sometimes wording gets screwed up.--Whitey138 01:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Players vs Instruments

Currently the instrumentation reflects the number of instruments required rather than the number of players. Should this be changed? 24.91.251.238 02:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

It looks fine to me; what do you have in mind? —Keenan Pepper 03:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Re-Review and In-line citations

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[edit] As Film Score

The article as it stands states:

The Disney studios maintain they were completely surprised by his turn of opinion in latter years. In the most bizarre iteration of Stravinsky's story regarding his trip to the studio, he claimed he signed over the rights for The Firebird to the Disney studios only after Walt Disney personally threatened him and told him he was going to film The Firebird whether he liked it or not, so he might as well sign over the rights and be paid for it. and then says: Such a story strains credibility . . .

What is being cited that the claim strains credibility?

L Hamm 05:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reggae?

I was listening to the radio and heard what sounded like a reggae group playing part of The Rite of Spring. The DJ never said who performed it, though. Has anyone heard (or heard of) this? 63.245.182.235 05:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transliteration of Russian title

"Vesna svjaščennaja" does not really reflect current pronunciation in modern Russian, as the щ is no longer šč but rather šš, i. e. a very long voiceless "sh" sound. Does anyone agree with me? -andy 80.129.116.55 00:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Siouxsie and the Banshees - Nocturne

Didn't Siouxsie and the Banshees use this piece to open their concerts in the early 80's? I believe it's included with "Isreal" on the Nocturne album. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.63.201.84 (talk) 01:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Wikipedia 0.7 Nomination

Well done, your article The Rite of Spring has passed through the Nomination Process. Social Studiously My Editor Review! - 12:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)