Talk:The Real McCoy

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For a phrase rather than a film title, I think capitalization should be changed and this article moved to "The real McCoy". Thoughts, objections? -- Infrogmation 19:47, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

FWIW, I agree. -- Quuxplusone 06:52, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I heard from a history teacher that this phrase referred to Elijah McCoy and his machine lubricating device. -HughMor

I had confused this page with a disambiguation page. I doubt that the British sketch show was a source of the phrase. Remove it if you like. --Billpg 18:15, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

For 'street' language it is quite possible, that originally the idiom borned due to MAcao, then ironically applied to Kid McCoy, and at last his fame overcome the origin and everyone forgot of Macao. So it might be a number of scenarios is true at the same time.

Us McCoy's are actually descendents of the MacKay's (Scotland) before we immigrated to Ireland and had our name Anglicized to MacCoy or McCoy. When we immigrated to the US because of the potato famines and of course many of us moved to the hills of Kentucky and West Virginia, I'm sure the term moved with us, giving credence to all the sources, at least as carrying the phrase on. With the MacKay one being the earliest, which I'd never heard of, I'd say the prize should go to it for origins, but to the others for keeping it going. Many phrases don't stand the test of time and need some of this kind of help. J. McCoy, 8-12-06