Talk:The Queen (film)

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[edit] Link

The link to the screenwriter Peter Morgan is wrong, it leads to think that another Peter Morgan (who is dead) is the writer (and I guess he isn't). Sorry, I'm not aware of the technicalities of web editing, so I'm just posting the mistake here, and maybe someone else can fix it.

[edit] Is this film American?

Is this film considered an "American" film? I pose this question because of the recent Academy Awards event, which handed an award to Ms. Mirren. I have assumed that the film is British. I have also assumed the the Academy Awards are limited to American films, with the exception, of course, of "Best Foreign Film." These could be false assumptions. Can anyone lend any insight to this?

Of course it is a British film! The Academy Awards are not just for American movies, they are international awards. There is a section for "Best Foreign Language Film", for films in languages other than English Paul75 22:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Stag

the plot leaves out the part about the stag. it isn't exactly part of the story arc but it provides an insight into the queen's character and takes up a significant part of the film, so i think it should be included.

I also think it should be included, but I think there should be seperated section - the hunt for the stag is sort of tool of storytelling, I don't know how it's called in english, but the opening and closing scenes also seemed to be such tools - they are not important for main action of the film, they outline details, like charecters, atitude, relationships and historical background.
P.S. I think it's very good film ---- Xil/talk 01:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Accuracy

This article should really say how accurate the film is.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.153.173.6 (talk • contribs).

The sections dealing with public events (such as the speech, or the crowds) appear fairly accurate. As to the rest, I think part of the point is that, even at the end, the Queen "as a person" and her role as monarch remain seperate, so in reality we just don't know how she, or the other royals, actually felt about things. Something about that should probably be added. Daibhid C 22:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
We'd have to wait, I guess, for someone to comment on the degree to which the imagined scenes seem accurate. There are aspects in the externally linked materials, and elsewhere here. The article on Cherie Blair mentions her reported contempt for the royal family, and it's sourced, so we can use that. Similarly, the linked Mirren interview in The Independent mentions in passing that "cabbage" is supposedly one of Phillip's terms of endearment for Her Majesty.
Perhaps I or someone could start a "realism" section similar to the (unsourced) one I included with The Devil Wears Prada. Daniel Case 05:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comparison photos

A strip of comparison photos of the actors in character and the real life people they play would be brilliant for this page JayKeaton 07:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC) There is one here: http://homepage.mac.com/gayrevi/iblog/C1528208335/E20050922104502/Media/mirren.jpg

[edit] Royal responses

I would love to see a section on any feedback from the royals or the government on this film, if any is to be had. Gregwmay 23:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The Queen herself apparently declared she had not seen the movie and did not intend to do so. 161.24.19.82 17:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Sources? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.38.180.135 (talk) 00:49, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Stag scenes

Can somebody tell me what the story with the stag is all about? --85.182.76.122 09:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC) —Avn001 - I went to see the show last night. I thought it was brilliant. Today, after church I thought about the scene again and in my mind the following picture played off. The Queen got stuck in the river. Then the stag appeared on the scene. The most beautiful stag the Queen has ever seen. This is a reflection of Princess D. The Queen heard a shot in the distance, and made a gesture for the stag to go away. Remember that the Prince Phillip had this obsession to kill this stag? To cut the story short and get you own mind moving, the stag was shot on another farm. This is Princess D getting out of the way of her home ground, going some where else (France) where she was wounded by all those who gave her a hard time, and eventually died. The Queen, I think, portrays the real feeling in this scene, af knowing that a lot went on without her intervention and had to see and feel that the wounded Princess was killed by her, the Queen not doing enough to stop the hate built up under her very own family. I would like to hear from you on what your thoughts may be upon my interpretation. Kind regards from South Africa. Contact me at avn001@icon.co.zaAvn001 14:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC)Andre van Noordwyk

They are stalking and hunting the stag to its death. Diana was stalked and hunted by the media to her death. Quite simple really! Paul75 22:49, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
We really shouldn't be engaging in this discussion on a talk page, but (imho) the stag def isn't an allusion to Diana. It seems rather an allegory for the traditional, conservative, and noble past the Queen seeks to represent, and one which is is threatened (by rampant capitalism, amongst other things, as acknowledged by the private client's shooting of the stag). Nicolasdz 18:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect

I dont think 'The Queen' should re-direct here, if someone said that, you think of the person, not the movie. Viva43 05:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I strongly disagree. I tried 'The Queen' and was surprised it didn't lead to this page. If I was looking for the person, I would type something like 'Queen of England', because there are so many queens... Nicolasdz 18:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "King of England"

I think that the contention that this usage is invalid as there has been no such title since the Act of Union of 1707 is debatable. Many Scots in particular would argue that a union of two countries is exactly that, and hence a king of the United Kingdom is, by direct implication, also both the king of England and the king of Scotland.

There's a king of England in as much as there's a king of Ontario; the monarch reigns in these places, but only as they are a part of a lager state over which the king is sovereign. Thus there's a King of the United Kingdom and a King of Canada, but no longer any separate King of Scotland, nor has there been a King of Western Australia. --G2bambino 17:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mechanic?

I was interested to hear the Queen mention in the film that she had been a mechanic during WWII. However, Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom says, "She joined the Women's Auxiliary Territorial Service ... and was trained as a driver." Elizabeth_II_of_the_United_Kingdom#Military_career. Can anyone clarify her actual training and service? Thank you. -- 201.51.231.176 17:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

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