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[edit] Mistake in trivia

"In the episode where nano-bites eat all the carbon in the city and it starts raining, Dexter (from Dexter's Laboratory) appears." First of all, the little carbon-eating pests were calling nano*bots*, and secondly, I don't recall seeing Dexter in this episode. I think the writer of this trivium is confusing the ep with the one called 'Forced Kin', the one where Mojo joins forces with the Girls to stop some alien dude. Dexter did appear in that episode, anyway.

It seemed a little unusual to me, too, when I skimmed by it, but I don't remember the episodes specifically enough to verify the trivia either way. --Crisu 14:31, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old

The girls are sickeningly cute and incredibly powerful.

Is the word "sickeningly" allowed, under the NPOV rule? ;) -- Oliver Pereira

Maybe a word with less POV could be used. Using that word leaves a clear meaning that may have nothing to do with a point of view. It is emphasizing the word "cute". Another good word does not come to mind, but someone can think of one. Maybe "extremely cute?" Maybe they are *supposed* to be sickeningly cute and then it isn't an NPOV violation at all! -- RM

Are you sure it is Townsville, *USA*? I watch the show alot and they never mention where Townsville is. It is possible that the dubbers cut it ofcourse. --BL

Not if you watch it in English, since it's made in English. --Charles A. L. 15:16, Mar 16, 2004 (UTC)
The episode with the 'fish-balloon' monster and the Powerpuff mech thing mentions, at the beginning, that just about the only American thing it doesn't have is Mt. Rushmore, or something to that effect. I believe there's also references to the PPG Townsville being in the US in the episode with the alien broccoli. This is just my hazy memory, though. ^^' --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 21:22, Jun 23, 2004 (UTC)
Oh, found one more bit of evidence. Townsville Hall has the American flag over it. So there you go. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 08:51, Aug 6, 2004 (UTC)

(Glenn L) Dialog from several episodes appear to identify Townsville with Los Angeles, California. Here are just a few:

(1) In "Knock It Off," the Professor refers to "the 101. Take the 210 to the Harbor Freeway." This detail also seems to identify Pokey Oaks with the L.A. suburb of Pasadena, California.

(2) In "Him Diddle Riddle," Buttercup says "One down, ten million to go!" While no US city has that many people, Los Angeles County DOES!

(3) The opening of "Catastrophe" shows a freeway clearly identified as Interstate 405, which only exists in the Los Angeles and Seattle areas.

(4) Little Tokyo Townsville in "Uh Oh Dynamo": The largest Japanese communities outside of Japan are in Los Angeles and San Francisco.

In one episode they move to "Citysvile" through a giant red bridge with the same architecture as SF's. of cource it is US, where else could it be SU? There is Townsvile in Australia, however without giant red bridge that looks like SF's

(Glenn L) There is also Coronado, California, conneced to San Diego by a similar bridge. When the bridge is closed due to accident or suicide jumper, the only way out is via a 2-lane, 25-mile (40-km) detour through Imperial Beach. Believe me, you don't want to face that.

Some critics claim that the Powerpuff Girls are icons of "third-wave feminism".

Who said that? --Notyetbotheredtoregister

I know Mojo Jojo shows up way more than Him, but don't they say that Him is the most evil person in the world? Wouldn't he be more accurately described as the archenemy? - Branddobbe

Perhaps, but even though Him is the most evil, Mojo Jojo causes more trouble for the girls. I think that's what matters. Him apparently spends most of his time cackling evily down in his lair or something... --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 08:51, Aug 6, 2004 (UTC)
The definition for enemy, Sparky, is one who hates the other person. God knows, maybe Mojo Jojo hates the girls more than Him does. Marcus2 16:13, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)

third wave feminism - counting from when? 1920s wave? 1960s wave? Ironically, I live in Townsville, Australia :)

Dear PMelvilleAustin:

Please forgive me for being so rude to you, I deeply regret it. Now, let's discuss the new issue calmly.

The quote "The show is a runaway smash hit, and over a billion dollars of merchandise was sold even before the movie release.", is indeed a quote that can be contradicted.

From what I know, the show used to be pretty popular, but I don't think it was ever popular enough to be a smash hit. Also, not many things make it to one billion dollars or over, except for Bill Gates perhaps. And as for the movie, it did very poorly, only $11,000,000.

And right now, Cartoon Network now limits "The Powerpuff Girls" to weekends, and on top of that, little of the merchandise is advertised or even on sale. As a matter of fact, I've hated the show for a long time. I can't stand their violence, their stupidity, and their stupid emotionally expressed faces at certain times. Please excuse my POV, it's a free country, and I have every right to express my opinion.

Please tell me why you think your statement is valid.

--65.73.0.137

You may hate it but that doesnt give you the right to disort the article, however unconciously, with your hatred. Woould "moderate success" be an acceptable compromise to you? PMA 01:13, May 14, 2004 (UTC)

FWIW, IMO, 1) an assertion of popularity should be backed up by some fact or source, or not included in the article. 2) I *very* much doubt the $1B merchandise presale - that sounds preposterously huge; I;d advise you to provide a reference for it, or withdraw it. 3) WTF is the third wave of feminism? You *must* be able to explain or reference such an obscure idiom as this, if there isto be any point in the sentence. 4) As it is, I'd advise chopping those last two sentences out altogether. They do not improve the article in their current state; the article is still very good without them. best wishes --Tagishsimon

[edit] Where'd Prof. Utonium's first name come from?

I have never heard Professor Utonium's first name, but that could be because I haven't seen many of the newer episodes. Could someone provide a source episode? --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 21:22, Jun 23, 2004 (UTC)

Actually, Prof. Utonium's "first name" listed as "John" first appeared in the article in the very first edit on May 8, 2002. --Marcus2

That's all well and good, but in what episode was his name mentioned? Again, I don't claim to know everything, and I haven't seen a whole lot of the newer episodes, but I've watched the show for a while and never heard the Professor's first name mentioned, even heard it awkwardly avoided. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 17:10, Jun 24, 2004 (UTC)

I'm not saying that there is an episode in which Prof. Utonium's first name is mentioned. I've never seen an episode like that either. --Marcus2

Even in the episode when the girls goes back to time, they encounter the younger version of the professor, the teacher still calls him 'mr. Utonium' and not by his first name. 80.126.183.100 21:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proof of there are no plans for a 7th season

From Craig himself: Post on Toonzone Forums --24.46.237.228 05:05, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)



umm dude it only says there are no plans to make any in the near future that could be 6 months or 2 years it says nowhere he won't make anymore episodes

[edit] "Supposedly" fight crime?

What was the reasoning behind this edit? The opening of every show has the line, "Using their ultra-super powers Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup have dedicated their lives to fighting crime and the forces of evil."

Answer: The sanity and morality of the girls are disputed, and one of those who disputes it is me. Some people just want to say only good things about them, but that's not in the line of the morality in Wikipedia, so to keep in NPOV, I inserted "supposedly" to satisfy both sides. Marcus2 14:01, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Reply:: That's fine, but you should expand on that point. You're POV is conflicting with the entire premise of the show. BTW, I somewhat agree with you're premise, but you're not providing any explanation or proof in the article body. You should update or revert, otherwise people will get the wrong idea.
How's "Some people do question the girls' morality." work for everyone? (By the way, I do agree with that, at least sometimes.) --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 02:00, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Villain

Sedusa has apperead at least twice in the show, and is in the opening credits; She should be listed as well. Princess Moorbucks, A.K.A Princess is a reoccuring villain on a few episodes. The fact that she is missing from the list disturbs me. Madam Argentina is also not mentioned among the Guest enemies.

[edit] Blonde/Blond for Bubbles

According to the blond article, the spelling blonde seems to be more correct when referring to females. I think it should say blonde in Bubbles' case, then, but I'm not going to get into an edit war over it. : ) --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 18:59, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Superheroes dispute.

Okay. Let's discuss putting the Powerpuff Girls into the superheroes category or leaving them out like reasonable Wikipedians, and try and iron something out. Marcus2, you feel they shouldn't be in said category because "They're not superheroes in my eyes." Well, while I agree that they do questionable things at times, they do fit most of the criteria for being superheroes, as outlined in the superhero article here on Wikipedia. Examples:

From the introduction: "A superhero is a fictional character who is noted for feats of courage and nobility and who usually has a colorful name and costume and abilities beyond those of normal human beings. ..."

From the list of superhero features:

  • "Extraordinary powers and abilities, mastery of relevant skills, and/or advanced equipment. Although superhero powers widely vary, the ability to fly, superhuman strength, superhuman agility and enhanced versions of any of the five senses are all common superpowers. Many superheroes, such as Batman and Green Hornet, possess no superpowers but have mastered skills such as martial arts and forensic sciences." They fly. They have laser vision. Blossom has ice breath. I think they've got this one covered.
  • "A willingness to risk one's own safety in the service of good, without expectation of reward." Well. Usually without expectation of reward – I haven't been keeping up with the show as much as I used to, but I do remember one episode where they went nutty because of a candy reward. But other than that, check.
  • "A special motivation, such as revenge (e.g. Batman), a sense of responsibility (e.g. Spider-Man), or a formal calling (e.g. Green Lantern)." They fight crime to protect Townsville.
  • "A secret identity." This one's not applicable to the Girls, no.
  • "A flamboyant, distinctive costume, usually to hide the secret identity. It often has bright colors and a symbol, such as a stylized letter or visual icon, on the chest. ..." Special costumes, check, even if it's not to protect their identities.
  • "An arch enemy and/or a collection of regular enemies that s/he fights repeatedly." Check and double check.
  • "An unusual weakness that limits the character or puts him/her in peril when his/her enemies attempt to exploit it, e.g. Superman’s vulnerability to the fictional element Kryptonite, Green Lantern’s inability to directly affect any object colored yellow." Uhh... I can't recall anything besides the rarely-mentioned Antidote-X, but I could be wrong.
  • "Is either independently wealthy or has an occupation that allows for minimal supervision so their whereabouts do not have to be strictly accounted for, e.g. Superman's civilian job as a reporter." They don't have secret ID's, so not applicable.
  • "A backstory, called an "origin story," in which the circumstances of the character acquiring his/her abilities is explained, as well as his/her motivation for fighting evil." Powerpuff Girls Movie. Check here.

See also divergent character examples and anti-hero. Again, while the Girls' actions are at times questionable, they don't strike me as supervillains or even anti-heroes. They just make mistakes sometimes. Sometimes some pretty big mistakes, but mistakes nonetheless.

I propose a compromise: let's stick the Girls into Category:Superhero teams (more specific; they are a team, after all), and have some sort of "criticisms" section in the article. Maybe that way, everyone can be happy. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 02:03, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)

Marcus2 must be out of his/her mind. Check the various PPG transcripts. They're referred to as superheroes. Go to one of the PPG fan sites and search their transcripts for "superhero." --24.186.209.222 22:29, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Excuse me, but this user Sparky the Seventh Chaos already went through the guidelines of being classified as a superhero and the Powerpuff Girls don't fit all of the criteria. Not everyone thinks the PPGs are superheroes so I think it's better this way, unless perhaps you think that not all superheroes are good, which is POV actually. Marcus2 01:54, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
They may not fit all of them, but they fit a good majority of them; the only ones that don't seem to apply are the ones about secret identities, sometimes the one about expecting no reward, and the one about a special weakness, and even then just because Antidote-X doesn't seem to show up a whole lot, and also because I may just not have kept up with the show as well as I used to. Besides that, not all superheroes fit all the criteria, and there are quite a few examples of this in the main superhero article under the Divergent character examples section. A lot of these divergent character examples seem to be more "edgy" than the PPGs will ever be; examples include Wolverine and The Incredible Hulk.
I also direct attention to Spider-Man's blurb in the superhero article: "Spider-Man has been portrayed as an every-man hero, often showing poor judgment and being overwhelmed by the responsibilities of both costumed crime fighting and civilian life. After Spider-Man became popular, superheroes generally became more human and troubled so whether or not this makes Spider-Man a divergent character example is questionable." (emphasis mine)
If anything, I think the PPGs fall into this sort of category. As near as I can tell, they're rarely malicious exept in retalliation; sometimes overly so, perhaps, but that strikes me as "showing poor judgement" rather than actual evilness.
One more thing I think we all need to remember is that the Powerpuff Girls are marketed as superheroes, just as Superman, Batman, and Wolverine alike are. I think that should count for something.
I restate my position that the PPGs should go into Category:Superhero teams, and that the article should have a "criticisms" section, for the reason that while they may do questionable things at times, it seems to me like this is more a case of occational poor judgement than evilness, and also because, well, that's how they're actually portrayed on the show most of the time. Again, they do not strike me as supervillains or even anti-heroes – just a trio of sisters with superpowers who are generally trying to help people, but who, like all of us, make mistakes sometimes. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 07:11, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)
Good point, but some of the 'mistakes' the girls make they never apologize for. Marcus2 13:36, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I don't see what that has to do with anything. Neither does Batman. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 19:43, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)
Batman doesn't make many mistakes, but if he does, I'm sure he apologizes for them. Marcus2 13:11, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Marcus, in all honesty, you seem to be grasping at straws now.
Look. They have superpowers. They generally try to use these powers for good. Please tell me what this makes them. Are they supervillians? I think not. Are they anti-heroes? I think not; they're not dark enough for that. This leaves them as supeheroes, I believe. Flawed heroes at times, yes; but still heroes. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 18:20, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
Apparently, the girls are dark enough to be anti-heroes and don't correct their flaws like they should. Marcus2 17:02, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I do not see how being flawed necissarily makes them anti-heroes... just characters with flaws, like Spider-Man. In any case, would you please provide some specific examples of things they've done, never showed remorse for, and probably should have within the context of the show? Let's face it, the show's genre that is prone to a thick line between 'good guys' and 'bad guys'. The girls are usually portrayed as the good guys, so simply beating the snot out of evildoers doesn't seem like such a bad thing within the context of the show, at least not to my understanding. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 22:23, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
Oh, yeah, what about Buttercup's intention to fight Elmer Sglue (as a paste monster) and what about Rainbow the Clown, the innocent side to Mr. Mime. I could think of more examples of the abuses of the Powerpuff Girls' powers. And it's all an opinion if those they fight are evildoers. Jesus! Marcus2 15:58, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I distinctly remember Buttercup apologizing to Elmer. That's how she stopped the fight. You do have a point with Rainbow; that was not my favorite episode. On the other hand, I can think of several instances where the Girls did apologize or at least show remorse for mistakes within the context of the show.
  • Bubbles went a little crazy in one episode and started hurting more than she was helping, but she apologized to her sisters at the end of the episode for running off. Admittedly, this may or may not have included what she did while off on her own, but that's the vibe I got from the show.
  • The whole Bunny episode. The Girls were all very sad at the end for how they treated Bunny – as Bubbles said, "We were the ones who were bad."
  • The Powerpuff movie, in which they destroyed half the town by accident. They tried to make up for this by helping Mojo, and then tried to make up for that when he betrayed them by beating him and his wayward monkey and ape army. They were about to give up their powers so they wouldn't cause any more trouble.
In other words, from my reccolections, the Rainbow episode seems to be more of an acception than a rule. At any rate, I again ask that you keep in mind the sort of show The Powerpuff Girls is: it's a cartoon action series about super-powered crime fighters, and tends to overexaggerated about who's good and who's bad. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 23:50, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)
Okay. I just have two more things to tell you. It wasn't really a fight in Elmer's case because no one was attacked or hurt. And, how did the girls destroy half of the town in the movie, just out of my curiosity? Marcus2 13:59, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Elmer picked up students and shot them out his fingers. They were all right in the end by Cartoon Magic, and frankly a lot of them had it coming for making fun of him, but still. He did help with repairing things in the end, of course.
And, they were playing tag. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 14:35, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

I'm only here because of the note at WP:RFC. IMHO the PPGs fit most of the criteria for superheroes. Most of their actions that don't fit will well into the superhero category can be explained away from the fact that they are little girls that don't know any better. But that was part of the fun of the show—they had most of the attributes of superheroes, but weren't classic superheroes. Instead, they were rambunctious young kids with superpowers that tried to good as best they could. Still, they certainly are not villains. And although the show itself was fairly subversive to the superhero format, the PPGs cannot be called anti-heroes either. So the best fit for the show is to add it to Category:Superhero teams. BlankVerse 02:50, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, but don't you think Blossom and Buttercup are at least somewhat mature for their age? Marcus2 14:39, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Also (To BlankVerse), you think that these girls, who are aggressive, bare their teeth at times, and intentionally hurt people, are girls that don't know any better and aren't villains?! Marcus2 20:42, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I also think that the girls should be classed as super-heroes. --83.216.154.56 23:43, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Have you ever thought about how others may feel about how they should be classed? Marcus2 15:43, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I also agree with the classification under Category:Superhero teams, and I suspect that Marcus is probably the only Wikipedian who disagrees with that classification. -Sean Curtin 05:06, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone have an old (dead) link to the original Whoop Ass Girls site? It was on a college page, I believe. It had a movie download of the original short episode, and closed later after stating it would return updated. It's gone now, but someone with the old link might be able to retrieve it with archive.org. Similar to The Spirit of Christmas for South Park, it's nice to have these things preserved.

[edit] Infobox and episodes

Why, if the article for Dexter's Laboratory doesn't have an infobox and episodes, should Powerpuff Girls have one? Marcus2 18:24, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • feel free to go create one. SchmuckyTheCat 20:28, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Powerpuff Girls Theme Song

I'm pretty sure they powerpuff girls theme song was written/preformed by BIS and not Elizabeth Daily. By theme song I mean the song that starts "Blossom commander and the leader". BIS is also credited on the soundtrack as singing the theme. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004TZZO/002-0991265-7788058?v=glanceZombieliving 01:27, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DVD information

Shouldn't there be any information on the DVDs? --User:Angie Y.

[edit] corrections made

by --Zhang Liang 18:16, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I reverted your change, you broke the infobox (as you have been doing for some time now). -- ReyBrujo 18:30, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rowdyruff Boys

Should we add that some people might think the Powerpuff Girls and the Rowdyruff Boys like each other but they actually don't? --anon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.104.185.80 (talk • contribs).

That would be like adding that some people think sandwiches are evil to the article about breakfast or something. There's enough people thinking weird things about anything, but there's no point in adding that kind of nonsense.

[edit] No fingers/toes

Meni Rosenfeld, your argument is invalid. 1. No one has ever given me any sources. 2. The other characters that are "humans" are drawn with fingers and toes. 3. Although you call the girls "humans", they have no biological mother. 4. It's only a cartoon, and in cartoons, anything can happen. If you fail to present a source with definite proof that says that the Powerpuff Girls have fingers and toes, I will proceed to revert back to the old statement that has stuck here on Wikipedia for months. Marcus2 21:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Common sense is my only source. They appear in many episodes to hold something (be it a crayon, a paper, a game cartridge as in "The powerpuff girls best rainy day adventure ever", or whatever), which I find would be very difficult if they didn't have fingers. Don't you agree? There's also no reason to assume that the PPG should be drawn exactly like all the other characters, in a way that being drawn without fingers must mean they genuinely have no fingers. Besides, I think the current wording by Sparky is an acceptable compromise. --Meni Rosenfeld 05:51, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
BTW, is there a source that says that the PPG don't have fingers? --Meni Rosenfeld 05:55, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Hey, check this out!!! Read paragraph three of this website: http://www.mutantreviewers.com/rpowerpuff.html. Marcus2 13:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I meant a reliable source, not some weird mutantophile's review. If you find the sentence "The powerpuff girls have no fingers" in the cartoon network site, it would be a different matter entirely. Of course, I will have a harder time finding a source that states the more-or-less obvious fact that they do have fingers. --Meni Rosenfeld 13:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Not sure if it's relevent or not, but in the episode where everyone switches bodies, Buttercup tried to pick the phone up in the Professor's body, fails a couple times, and finally says "Professor, your hand doesn't work!" She keeps the Professor's fingers closed while trying to pick up the phone, apparently attempting to pick it up with the side of his hand.

I don't think the Girls do have fingers. They're cartoon characters; if the artists want beings with no fingers picking up stuff, then by golly they will pick up stuff, ignoring the problems this would present in the real world. I wrote the compromise, so obviously I agree with it, but I figured I should say my piece on this. --Sparky Lurkdragon 16:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

There is a speech given by the Prof in one of the episodes where he explains to the girls that he likes them with all their imperfections "like not having fingers". Anybody know the episode?

I think you mean "Oops, I did it again". Yes, I've recently seen it and it does seem to strengthen the idea that they, indeed, have no fingers. But personally, I don't give much credit to what is said in the post-film episodes, so I still don't like the idea of explicitly stating in the article that they don't have fingers - Although officially, the evidence does suggest that. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 14:06, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Recently seen the episode? Why don't you watch Essence of Emeril or 30 Minute Meals starring Rachael Ray instead, if you have the Food Network. There are also other better and more popular shows to watch, like SpongeBob SquarePants, The Fairly OddParents, Scooby-Doo, and Dora the Explorer. Marcus2 16:02, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Um... I don't get it. I thought you liked "The Powerpuff Girls". (Besides "more popular" does not mean "better", and "better" does not mean I like them more.) <sarcasm> But thanks for giving me tips on what to watch on TV.</sarcasm> -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 16:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. Anytime. Now, what made you think I liked Powerpuff Girls? I never said I liked them. Marcus2 15:48, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

What is known about the Powerpuff Girls is, they don't have fingers on their hands, they don't have toes on their feet, they don't have palms, and they don't have flat feet. Their hands and feet are oval and bumpy. --PJ Pete

I believe that their hands and feet must be smooth, because they look that way. I don't see any bumps. Marcus2 23:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

The opposite of "flat" is "bumpy". --PJ Pete

[edit] Powerpuff Girls Trivia: Buttercup Farting

I just received a "warning" from Marcus2 over a sentence I've re-added repeatedly to the Powerpuff Girls trivia section:

You have repeatedly readded this sentence, "In the "Crazy Mixed-up Puffs" episode, there is a scene in which Buttercup farts." This is either inappropriate or it isn't true. You better stop readding the sentence or else you will be blocked. Marcus2 13:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

First, your warning is absolutely inappropriate, as this statement is 1) entirely factual, and 2) thoroughly appropriate, as Wikipedia is NOT CENSORED. Please refer to its guidelines in regard to what Wikipedia is not:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ISNOT#Wikipedia_is_not_censored

Being such, it is not your, or anybody else's place to remove factual information that you, or any cross-section of the public might find disturbing or offensive, especially given that the omission of this information would make the article less informative. Again, refer to Wikipedia's guidelines for the removal of profanity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Profanity

That said, I have re-added the statement along with a supporting reference (http://www.rowdyruff.net/transcript_cmup.shtml) to support this fact, in case anyone questions whether it is true or not. Any further removal of this statement will be referred on to a Wikipedia administrator for disciplinary action.

--Fred 19:40, 16 April 2006 (PST).

For the record, when viewing the source link, do a search for the phrase "breaking wind" to go right to the line that mentions Buttercup's action. I think this trivia fact should be kept. --Crisu 01:40, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


As a fan of PPG, and an even bigger fan of Buttercup I would like to ask (innocently and without malicious intent) How does this line contribute to the understanding of PPG? 69.215.104.4 22:43, 24 August 2006 (UTC)Becki R

[edit] Vandalized

Why Did Someone Go and Vandalize the Character Section Can Somebody Fix This?

Done. Reverting vandalism is easy if you backtrack through the article history and find the latest legit version. *Nod* Just go to that old version, click "edit this page," and save it. You'll be warned that you're editing an older version of the article, but that's what you want. Thanks for making a notification, though, but be bold next time and try reverting for yourself. ^_^ (Don't forget to sign your talk comments, too!) --Crisu 03:29, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gang Green/Gangreen

Anybody have a reliable source for how their name is supposed to be spelled? --Crisu 22:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Why do you question it? Although undoubtably redundant it's also and kidfriendly pun on the condition and criminal organization. Ace Class Shadow 22:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Again the vandalism

Need help from any admin. The Major Recurring Villains are being modified again and again. Amoeba Boys ARE one of these Major villains. Can Anyboy Fix it???? Something like this is happening with Major man, who is a Guest Enemie. Ace Class Shadow 22:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

You put the Amoeba Boys and Major Man under a Villains category. Neither are that evil. The Amoeba Boys commit petty crimes and like the girls (sort of). And Major Man was just a fraudulent superhero, not wicked enough to be a villain. If you continue with your edits, your IP will be blocked. Marcus 20:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Anyone who tries or thinks something againts the law, IS A VILLAIN/ENEMIE. Also the Amoeba Boys are a Major recurring characters. So, Amoeba Boys ARE A MAJOR VILLAINS and Major man is a GUEST ENEMIE, so my edits are CORRECT. Ace Class Shadow 21:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Gotta agree with Ace on this one. They belong in the villains category. CovenantD 02:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] When did it actually premiere?

I've always thought the show actually premiered on the "President's Day Nightmare" episode of Space Ghost: Coast to Coast as part of the "1st Annual World Premier Toon-In". The article claims it premiered on a different show. Anyone know for sure? DougieFresh 20:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Individual pages on each of the Powerpuff Girls

I personally think that each Powerpuff Girl (Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup) should get individual articles. They are major characters in the series. Some of the villians (such as Mojo Jojo) have their own article. For Power Rangers, many of the Power Rangers have their own article. Who is willing to create articles on each of the Powerpuff Girls? Andros 1337 02:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Not me. Besides, does Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory, Johnny Bravo, or Cow and Chicken from the TV series of the same name have their own separate articles? I don't think so. Marcus 12:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Bubbles

Excuse me, Marcus2, but when have I sabotaged the integrity of Wikipedia? You're obviously not new here, so please explain your removal of the addition I made to Bubbles' personality. Was it my wording? If it was then I apologize but the paragraph is misleading in the fact that it does not mention anywhere that Bubbles can become independent when she is pushed too far. I look forward to hearing your comments Staringatthesun 14:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

The thing about this part is, Buttercup is more powerful than Bubbles, so yes, it is about the wording. Best. Marcus 22:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok, my wording wasn't adequate I agree, so I will word it better, but Buttercup isn't more powerful than Bubbles, she is just more aggressive. This has been pointed out many times on the series. Thanks for your response Staringatthesun 03:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anime

I heard from somewhere that Powerpuff Girls used to be an Anime that the U.S. like they do everything else. Was it titled differently or something? Or does it even exist? 63.227.55.121 07:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

No, Powerpuff Girls has no relation to anime outside of Japan recently making their own Powerpuff Girl anime called Powerpuff Girls Z.Amibite 011:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is This Vandalism?

Someon put "citation needed" everywhere, even on areas that I think are true. Is this vandalism?--Mullon 20:54, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I added. Anyone please confirm the episodes where the minor characters were appeared. -- JSH-alivetalk to mesee my worksmail to me 05:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awards

Is this kind of thing notable for this particular show or what? I don't see an awards section for The Fairly OddParents, Dexter's Laboratory, etc. articles, so I can't see why we should be required to have a section in this article. Marcus2 01:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps those shows haven't won any awards? Try looking at The Simpsons or Futurama. Awards are a common part of many entertainment articles. CovenantD 03:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I see. But I know that those shows I mentioned did win awards. I can look it up. Marcus 13:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In other media

Did you see my last edit summary? This clearly explains all I have to mention on the talk page. The show is so unpopular, and the section is also so irrelevant to the show, practically no one will bother looking at it. The section MUST go. Marcus 14:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Marcus (or Marcus2, or whatever), after reading through the whole discussion page I've come to a conclusion that you're just a vandalist who edits this page out of spite. The real reason you keep editing and deleting informations from this page is not because you want to make this page more encyclopedic or to keep it NPOV. No, you edit it because you hate the fact that the Powerpuff Girls is more popular, both in America and over the world, than your favourite shows. Despite your behaviour, I'll try to be nice and reasonable with you to keep the Wikipedia spirit. First, let me recap your past trolling against the show, the article, and other Wikipedians:

  • You insisted on putting words "supposedly fight crimes" into the article, claiming to make it NPOV. Then you questioned the PPGs' sanity and morality, claiming they're disputed. However, the only one who disputes (at least in this article) is you. Of course, the girls are not perfect and infallible little angels - and no one tries to claim it that way. However, most of the time they do the right thing for the right cause. "Supposedly" should be reserved to be used on someone like Arsene Lupin, who helps other people so he can steal things he wants.
  • Three months later, you claimed the PPGs are not real superheroes. Again, using your own personal judgement. "They're not superheroes in my eyes." Even after Sparky's lengthy and detailed explanation, you simply refused to admit it, saying that they are not always good and they never apologize. An admin had to be called for his comments. When he finally agreed that they are superheroes, you disagreed with him, claiming they're old and should know better, saying they're aggressive villains, etc. Look, the girls sometimes make mistakes (they are people, people DO make mistakes) but they usually regret their actions afterwards. Only in one episode that I can think of that they are really cruel i.e. the Rainbow the Clown incident. And Batman has done some more questionable and more cruel things in his crime-fighting career. Even Wonder Women did KILL PEOPLE. Don't let me start on Wolverine. In the words of Sean Curtin: "I suspect that Marcus is probably the only Wikipedian who disagrees with that classification"
  • Five months later, you complained that the show shouldn't have its own infobox and episode lists since Dexter's Laboratory didn't have one. Well, as of 2006, I'm glad to tell you that Dexter's show has its own infobox. In fact, all Cartoon Cartoons shows now have their own infoboxes - even cancelled shows such as Cow & Chicken, Sheep, or (gasp!) Robot Jones.
  • Six months later, you disputed that the girls aren't humans on the ground that they have neither fingers nor mother. You know what? Many humans were born with missing fingers or no finger at all. Yes, they are mutants, but mutants are humans too. As for lacking of mother, Jesus didn't have a biological father either (well, his father was God and his mother had a virgin birth.) Despite this, Christians (most of them anyway) consider him to be both God and human. Of course, it is easier if you just accept the fact that the girls are cartoon characters who don't always have to obey scientific laws like real people. As for the Mutant Reviewers link your provided, it was written with sarcasm, parody, and mockery to make it funny. "(the girls) ...emerge with no fingers or toes, eyes the size of dinner plates..." But that doesn't mean you've to take it as facts. And if you have read to the end of that article, instead of stop reading after the third paragraph and assume that the word "Mutant Reviewers" means the guy who wrote the article only review movies about mutants, you'll find that the reviewer guy ACTUALLY LIKED THE MOVIE. Even your own provided fact speaks against you. (I have a feeling that you just actually Googled "Powerpuff+Girls+Mutant" and clicked on the first page that came up, read only what you want to see, and linked it here, ignoring the rest of the article.)
  • And then, you blew your cover by stating that, in fact, you don't like the show and think there're better things to do than watching them. There's nothing wrong is that if you keep it to yourself. You didn't.
  • You started a petty little disputed again by claiming that the Amoeba Boys and Major Man are not villains. Well, they do things to benefit themselves without caring about other people, that's enough to qualify them as a villain. And they DID broke the law.
  • Three months later you disagreed that each girl should have her own separate article, because Dexter, Johnny Bravo, Cow, and Chicken doesn't have one. This logic has nothing to do with one another. The decision whether to give them their own articles is based on the length of their personal profile (see Grim, Billy, and Mandy for instances.) If Wikipedians can write enough useful encyclopedic information about each girl (and I'm sure they can), then the time will come when the girls have their own separate articles. (Is that why you keep deleting other people's stuff? If this article remains short, no new article will be created from it, and you can contain this "PPG mess".)
  • Then you complained about the show having its own award section. Well, if the show won an award, it is entitled to have its own award section! As for the references, look this up.
  • And you threaten to block other people's IP/account if they continue to edit to add in their point. Sorry, you're not an admin, you can't block anyone. And I don't believe the Wikipedia community will appoint you to be an admin in the near future, if at all. You're just using scare tactics as a way to enforce your own censorship.

You don't like the show, fine. You think other shows are better than this show, fine. It's your opinion, your POV. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. But that doesn't mean that his/her opinion is right or factually accurate. The Powerpuff Girls might be an overrated show in your eyes, but that doesn't change the fact that IT IS POPULAR. It runs for 6 seasons with almost 80 episodes. It spawns one big screen movie and one spin-off series (PPG-Z). It is popular in America, Asia (don't argue with me on this one - I live in Asia), and Japan. The Powerpuff Girls is very big in Japan since it resembles Japanese anime style (although PPG might be actually parodying anime instead of paying tribute to it). It has its own theme song in Japanese covered by Japanese pop idols. There are references of it in many Japanese mangas (comics) and animes (cartoons). Even the spin-off show PPG-Z is made specially for the Japaneses! These are FACTS proving the show popularity. You can't deny it, just deal with it.

As for the In Other Media section which you have deleted, this section itself is another proof of the show's popularity. Your arguement for deletion ("This section is mostly made up of Cartoon Network shows and others fail to cite sources!") is completely false. Less than half of the references are from Cartoon Network shows and there are only four references that fail to cite sources. Besides, if the show is referenced, mocked, or even parodied by big names such as Stephen King, MADtv, or the Simpsons, it IS popular. (Perhaps this is why you're trying to delete this section afterall; letting people know that King or Simpsons talked about the PPGs is never a good idea...)

The most important thing is, that section was contributed by a lot of people. You alone have no right to remove it. If you think it's not important or encyclopedic enough, use the voting system to let the people decide it. In the meantime, perhaps you should go mind your own favourite shows. One of them requires clean up. If you really like it, then contribute to it instead of destroying other people's work.

And if I haven't made myself clear earlier, I do care about your reckless edits and I will not stay out of this. You cannot intimidate me by threats of banning. On the contrary, if you keep on disrupting or vandalising this article in attempt to undermine the show's popularity (which you can't, the only people who can undermine the show are show producers themselves) I would have no choice but to report your abuse. And unlike yours, that's not an idle threat.

And now I will proceed to restore the deleted section. If you want it gone, be democratic and use the voting system. - DTRY 21:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I will end this once and for all: "The Powerpuff Girls" is NOT THAT POPULAR! You don't know what you're talking about. "SpongeBob SquarePants" and "The Fairly OddParents", for instance, are much more popular than PPG. Almost everything is more popular than PPG, even all of my favorite shows. If "The Powerpuff Girls" is still popular, then Lionel Richie is a British musician and was born in London. Please try not to believe the publicity releases that say it was/is popular. So what if it's popular in Asia? I don't live there, but you do. As for Japan, I'm sure the anime version is a flop, and the movie didn't do well AT ALL! It only received $11,000,000 in the U.S., so it is most definitely not popular here in the U.S. Why do you make a big deal over this?! You are DEAD WRONG and that's that. What else can I say? Marcus 00:34, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Well... PPG has their own theme song in Japan. True. However, it was because of TV Tokyo's decission. (I don't know much of details: Ask Kasuga.) Now, I split this issue into 2.
PS: I added {{fact}} in the awards section.--JSH-alivetalk to mesee my worksmail to me 13:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I finally decided to delete the section once again. How do I use the voting system here? Marcus 20:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guest enemies section

I'm sorry, but this section has to go. It merely lists non-notable characters, that appeared once or twise in the whole series. I'm not going to remove it but please, discuss this. --May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 14:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blossom, Bubbles and Buttercup images

Instead of turning this into a revert war, discuss this here, ok? Thanks. --May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 16:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

We'll see if he comes here to discuss this.--Vercalos 16:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I've left a temporary hidden comment on the page, lets hope this resolves the problem. --May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 17:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe he's given up. I honestly hope he comes to discuss it though.--Vercalos 17:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm so very sorry, but for your information, there was no reason AT ALL to replace the old images, which were screenshots from the actual television show and were of "low quality" in your POV. These new images appear to be both from fanon and from copyrighted material. Why do you think these new images are so great? (And no need to be so frantic.) Marcus2 17:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
OK.. I didn't notice that they were copyrighted(in fact, those images are destined for deletion due to lack of copyright information).. Honestly though, we need better shots of the show. The ones present are rather fuzzy.--Vercalos 17:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Do we get enough information from said shots? Can we clearly see what the girls look like? If yes, there's no need for new ones, as that is the purpose of images. --May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 17:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, the one who submitted the new images is somewhat suspect, as he deleted the warnings for the images he submitted, telling him they'd be deleted. By the way, referring to the names for the old images(Burbuja, etc.), is that their name in another country or what?--Vercalos 17:32, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Probably, not that it matters though. --May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 17:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, I'm just thinking that the images might have been taken from another site on the internet; they look like recycled JPEGs.. The new images seem clearer, but less appropriate, now that I've had time to think about it, but most of the images on this page should probably be replaced if we can find a higher resolution image.--Vercalos 17:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Please, there's someone who can help me to put at Trivia's section that Bubbles's toy (a purple yellow-eyed octopus) appeared in the cartoon The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, at the episode Crawling Niceness? If you saw the episode, you can confirm. It's because I'm Brazilian and I don't want to write this information with any language error. Thanks. Brazilian Man 02:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Separate articles and new navigation template idea

I have ideas about What should have their article and how the navigation template should look like:(If you can't see, click [show].)

The Powerpuff Girls
Characters

The Powerpuff Girls
Bubbles | Blossom | Buttercup
Supporting characters
Professor Utonium | Mayor of Townsville | Sara Bellum | Ms. Keane
Major villains
Mojo Jojo | Fuzzy Lumpkins | Him | The Gangreen Gang | The Rowdyruff Boys | The Amoeba Boys | Sedusa | Princess Morbucks
Episodes and films

The Whoopass Girls (Pilot) | List of episodes | The Powerpuff Girls Movie | Twas the Fight Before Christmas (Christmas special)
Other

Craig McCracken (Creator)
See also: Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z

Above table is called {{PPG}}.

List to create:

And Sedusa (Powerpuff Girls) should renamed to "Sedusa".--JSH-alivetalk to mesee my worksmail to me 08:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Please discuss more. You can edit the above table. Then, create the template.

Also, I have separate article ideas for PPGZ. Here is the list to create:

  • Momoko Akatsutsumi Treats Momoko Akatsutsumi/Hyper Blossom
  • Miyako Goutokuji Treats Miyako Goutokuji/Rolling Bubbles
  • Kaoru Matsubara Treats Kaoru Matsubara/Powered Buttercup
  • Ken Kitazawa Treats Ken Kitazawa, the 8 year-old son of Professor Utonium and his pet robot dog, Peach.
  • Himeko Shirogane Treats Himeko Shirogane/Princess-sama as well as her pet cat, Sapphire.
  • Should Kuriko Akatsutsumi, a younger sister of Momoko Akatsutsumi, have her article? Discuss here.

It's not the end. Because I have more ideas:

  • Create a section titled In other media in the article Professor Utonium, then, treat Professor Utonium in the PPGZ in that section.
  • Create a section titled In other media in the article Mayor of Townsville, then, treat Mayor of Tokyo City in the PPGZ in that section.
  • Create a section titled In other media in the article Sara Bellum, then, treat Miss Bellum in the PPGZ in that section.
  • Create a section titled In other media in the article Ms. Keane, then, treat Miss Keane in the PPGZ in that section.
  • Create a section titled In other media in the article Sedusa (Powerpuff Girls), then, treat Sakurako Kintoki/Sedusa in that section.
  • Create a section titled In other media in the articles about major villains (Mojo Jojo, Fuzzy Lumpkins, Him (The Powerpuff Girls), Gangreen Gang, Rowdyruff Boys, The Amoeba Boys), then, treat them in the PPGZ in that section in each article.

A PPGZ navigation template idea is coming soon.--JSH-alivetalk to mesee my worksmail to me 07:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

And now! Here's a PPGZ navigation template idea, named {{PPGZ}}:(If you can't see, click [show].)

Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z
Characters

Powerpuff Girls Z
Kaoru Matsubara / Powered Buttercup | Momoko Akatsutsumi / Hyper Blossom | Miyako Goutokuji / Rolling Bubbles
Supporting characters
Professor Utonium | Ken Kitazawa and Peach | Mayor of Tokyo City | Miss Bellum | Miss Keane
Major villains
Mojo Jojo | Fuzzy Lumpkins | Him | The Gangreen Gang | The Rowdyruff Boys | The Amoeba Boys | Sakurako Kintoki / Sedusa | Himeko Shirogane / Princess-sama and Sapphire
List of episodes
See also: The Powerpuff Girls

And, can someone describe PPG comics on the article The Powerpuff Girls and PPGZ manga on the article Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z?--JSH-alive talk to mesee my worksmail to me 06:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

What a waste of time, to dedicate all of this to a fairly minor animated series. Also, the Powerpuff Girls deserve no recognition after they beat up an innocent clown. My suggestion is to dump this idea, as it is wasted. Marcus2 12:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, if it violates Wikipedia:Notability (fiction)... --May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) (drop me a line) 18:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I completely disagree with Marcus2's comments. The Powerpuff Girls themselves are major characters in the series, and many of the villains are also well-known. Many other series (such as Power Rangers and The Fairly OddParents) have their own articles on characters, and I don't see why PPG shouldn't have individual articles on major characters. Andros 1337 14:49, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
While the villains are major characters in the series, they are NOT well known AT ALL. After the girls beat up Rainbow the Clown, there is no reason to recognize them or praise and laud them. Marcus2 15:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but where did Andros 1337 say anything about Rainbow the clown? --May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) (drop me a line) 15:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I never stated anything about Rainbow the Clown. However, every MAJOR villain (including Fuzzy Lumpkins and Him) should have their own article. And of course, the heroes of the series (Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup) are worthy having individual articles, similarly to how many of the Power Rangers have their own. Andros 1337 00:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Now, here's the El Cid-ish version of my previous idea:

  • {{PPG}}
v • d • e
The Powerpuff Girls

Main characters: Bubbles - Blossom - Buttercup
Supporting characters: Professor Utonium - Mayor of Townsville - Sara Bellum - Ms. Keane
Major villains: Mojo Jojo - Fuzzy Lumpkins - Him - The Gangreen Gang - The Rowdyruff Boys - The Amoeba Boys - Sedusa - Princess Morbucks

List of episodes - The Powerpuff Girls Movie - Twas the Fight Before Christmas

Craig McCracken - The Whoopass Girls

See also: Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z - PowerPuff Girls Doujinshi

  • {{PPGZ}}
v • d • e
Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z

Main characters: Kaoru Matsubara / Powered Buttercup - Momoko Akatsutsumi / Hyper Blossom - Miyako Goutokuji / Rolling Bubbles
Supporting characters: Professor Utonium - Ken Kitazawa and Peach - Mayor of Tokyo City - Miss Bellum - Miss Keane
Major villains: Mojo Jojo - Fuzzy Lumpkins - Him - The Gangreen Gang - The Rowdyruff Boys - The Amoeba Boys - Sakurako Kintoki / Sedusa - Himeko Shirogane / Princess-sama and Sapphire

List of episodes

See also: The Powerpuff Girls

--JSH-alive talk to mesee my worksmail to me 08:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] correction needed

The animation director is Genndy Tartakovsky, of Dexter's Laboratory and Samurai Jack fame, who has also directed many of the shows themselves.

I can't correct this as the sentence doesn't make sense however much you juggle the words about - has something been taken out? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.112.64.146 (talk) 20:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Image in the infobox

Instead of , how about this:

http://ppgcom.gooside.com/ppgz/ppgzop2/ppg04.jpg

It is included in http://ppgcom.gooside.com/ppgz/ppgzop2/index.html , the page explaining cultural references in the PPGZ's second opening sequence.--JSH-alive talk to mesee my worksmail to me 06:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm all for it, it looks much better than the cuttent one. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) (drop me a line) 12:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Disagree Nope, the current one is transparent, and also has a good image quality. I see no reason to change it. δσώпҹ (talk)(cont) 12:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure, the new one seems much closer to the original opening, though now that I think about it, in the end both would work well, as they essentially show what's intended to be shown. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) (drop me a line) 12:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Now who deleted my post? I got 2 suspects.

All right. I've even put in something about Garfield in one of his comic book strips stated he mentioned Sugar, Spice and Everything Nice which it is really, really true. You have to believe me for this one. It could be in an Orange or Red colored cover one.

Anyways, I don't mind one thing. If it is the Great Administrator or other true Administrators who deleted my post and thread, that's ok, I will understand. But if it is not the Great Administrator or other true Administrators, then it should be none other than Marcus or Marcus2 himself.

Sorry for being not polite but It is true. Unknown 3 16:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


Ah, well hello there my fellow PPG fan. Im glad to see you have gotten so engaged in this matter, but there are two things you should know:

First of, the phrase "sugar and spice and everything nice" is originally from an old nursery rhyme, and not a phrase invented by the creators of the Powerpuff Girls. So Garfield was actually refering to the rhyme, and not the PPG.

Second, you should always sign your posts, weather you are a registered or anonymous user.Rattis1 16:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, wait, you signed it while i was writing. Never mind what i said thenRattis1 16:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. Thanks for informing me. About the first one, I did some research and oh gee, it is true and I'm ashamed of myself about that. About the 2nd one, I might forget at times so I won't mind having anyone to remind me. Unknown 3 16:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Here we go again...

Sorry Marcus, but you cant silence me by just reverting this page over and over again. I have the right to write here as much as anyone else. I want people to know about the edit i made to the article, which you erased without a valid reason. So here it is, once again:

The Powerpuff Girls TV debut in 1998 was the highest rated premiere in Cartoon Network history. For several seasons, the series consistently scored the highest rating each week for the network across a wide range of demographics -- from young children to adults.

And here is my source, from good ol' Animation World Magazine: http://www.awn.com/mag/issue5.07/5.07pages/demottppg.php3

Anyway, i must admit that my last post here was somewhat... uncivil (And so was the post of another PPG fan). I apologize for that. Nevertheless, you still bug the schnitz out of me with your constant attempts to undermine this article (as well as the articles for the PPG movie and the PPG episode list). And i still want you to engage in an open discussion about reverting my edits right here on this talk page, were everyone will be able to read it. For you see, i am absolutely confident that everybody will agree with me.Rattis1 15:56, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any such edit made to the article. SchmuckyTheCat 16:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Exactly, you dont, because Marcus deleted it. And i want him to come here and discuss that with me.Rattis1 16:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
It took me about 2 minutes to look at every edit made by Marcus in the last month or so and I don't see him removing it. SchmuckyTheCat 16:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Whoa, what just happened? It seems that my post was deleted for some reason perhaps. Night Leon 17:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Here is the page the way it was prior to his deletion of my edit (my edit is in the "history" section):
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Powerpuff_Girls&oldid=118143834
And he deleted my edit at precisly 12:28, 27 March 2007.
And im still waiting for him to talk about it, instead of just reverting this page over and over again. Rattis1 09:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I restored it and added a reference from the network itself. SchmuckyTheCat 14:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I tried to restore it but I'm not used to computer programmings but now I'm learning so I will be waiting till then. I've also added my own cultural reference. However, our changes are not enough. Let's keep up the good work people. Night Leon out. Night Leon 14:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Good job. It's nice to see very reliable sources to this problematic topic. Maybe now, he'll consider it a bit more before springing into action. I just find it cool that that reference was found. Umandsf 17:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, there are so many people interested in this! SchmuckyTheCat 20:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
The premiere of this show was NOT the highest rated premiere in the network's history. The What a Cartoon shorts for The Powerpuff Girls were not as popular as those for Dexter's Laboratory. PPG had only two, while Dexter had twice as many. Powerpuff Girls was not nearly as popular as Pokemon, Rugrats, and SpongeBob, for instance. Scooby-Doo, as I recall, was always more popular than PPG, meaning that PPG could not have scored the highest rating spots for the network. And there's no way that your reference is reliable! It is a biased site that promotes the show. If it's reliable, Lionel Richie is a British musician and was born in London. That is why I will remove this entirely. I will also point out that one really shouldn't believe publicity releases like those from Time Warner. Publicity releases like these give invalid information. Marcus2 22:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
TimeWarner making a press release stating facts (ratings data) gathered by third party sources is absolutely reliable. Animation World is an industry specific magazine that is also reliable. SchmuckyTheCat 22:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
It is not possible that those sources are reliable because they are biased and will do anything to promote Cartoon Network and their show. Use common sense! Marcus2 22:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
What? You are claiming TimeWarner is lying about ratings data from a third party? They don't own arbitron or whoever it is that compiled the statistics. Their press releases may be self-promoting but that doesn't mean they are unreliable. Also, please stay off my user page if you are going to tell me "You really don't know what you're talking about." Keep the discussion here and try to come up with data, instead of just stating your correctness by fiat. SchmuckyTheCat 23:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm just flabbergasted here how someone could just make such radical claims in the face of cold hard facts. I seriously want to know what goes on in the mind of Marcus2. Maybe then, I can fully understand what's going on. I've been around during this entire show, and I can pretty much also say, using common sense, I may add, that this show was very popular indeed. It has become such a cultural icon as those shows stated by Marcus2...I can certainly see that some minority is clearly using his rights to corrupt something that has no problems. Umandsf 05:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Heh, it seems that Rattis, Umandsf and SchmuckyTheCat have something in common with me. The Powerpuff Girls may not have won the best shorts ever but it won lots of Fans out there including especially in my country. Heck, even my country's Ruler's son or daughter loves the Powerpuff Girls so much that he or she bought lots of the productions as fast as he or she could. Night Leon 08:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Im a very happy man right now. Not only is my edit back on the article, but i probably have enough people on my side concerning this little "conflict" so to be sure that if Marcus delets the edit again (which he probably will, even if it may take a few weeks/months) then someone is gonna put it back. Thanx people! You've restored my faith in humanity, in life, in love, and in the universe we live in! Rattis1 07:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Indeed. But still, we have to keep our eyes peeled. Even if the production of the Powerpuff Girls will end, their Wikipedia part will never no matter what. Night Leon 08:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh man! Something is amiss. And I know what to do when I see one. Night Leon 06:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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