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[edit] Seperate Articles

I belive there should be seperate articles for each version of the show. Each show has different producers and a different markets. The version comparison section should either be placed on the disambiguation page or in each of the seperate articles. Randomfrenchie 01:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

My bad. there already is a seperate article. I will make this more clear to readers because when you type 'The Office and press Go, it goes to this page. It is not clear that going to seperate pages is an option. Randomfrenchie 01:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] intern

Ryan, played by B.J. Novak, is an original character. wasn't there an intern in the original? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.105.208.9 (talk • contribs).

There was a temp in the original, named Ricky (not to be confused with Ricky Gervais who is David Brent and a writer/creater/etc. of the show). He dated Donna, the brunette in the office Gareth was interested in (sexually). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.106.209.88 (talk • contribs).

It should be noted that the temp in the American version has much more of a presense than the temp in the British version(this was something I put under the Version Comparisons section of the main page however someone felt that it did not belong, which I still do not understand). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.43.94.13 (talk • contribs).

I agree that it's not a bad information to have. User:24.59.106.17, in his second removal of this mention, writes: "taking out the temp line again. it's a bit obvious that novak's temp has more presence... the original UK office was only 14 episodes. of course the US version is going to flesh out their characters." It is not obvious to people that have seen one version only or no version yet (one goal of an encyclopedia is to bring new information to people without prior knowledge of a subject matter). The point is that he got proportionately less development than other characters. --Liberlogos 04:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

OMG. You're right. There was an intern in the original. This needs to be cleared up. Ryan's character (i.e. his personality) is original of the US show, but there was a similar temp character in the BBC version. This needs to be noted. Randomfrenchie 01:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

Hi all, this article was added to our task list over at the Wikipedia:Cleanup Taskforce, for general copyediting and perhaps cleaning up some of the inside jokes that don't necessarily make sense in the context of an encyclopedia article, which should be understandable to casual readers unfamiliar with the show. I'm sure I'll make some missteps so feel free to point them out; I assure you they weren't malicious! Thanks. · Katefan0(scribble) 17:02, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] US version - separate article - disambig page

  • Now that the American version is going into its second season and has been nominated for its own awards, should we be moving it to a seperate article? Or is there a guideline I'm missing? --Mrtea 12:10, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
  • I'd support this move. It has an ever-growing fanbase and the rumor is that NBC will be producing five or six more episodes. It deserves it's own page, if only for "ryan started the fire." --Stan weller 17:47, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I did it. I hope no one minds. Now the American version can expand and not affect the British version --vossman 16:12, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I think it makes sense to separate them. But now a disambiguation page is probably needed. --Jeremy Butler 22:00, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  • That makes sense; I was hoping to use the main page as a comparison/disambig page, but that may not conform to Wikipedia style --vossman 22:05, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Yeah, the only tricky part would be figuring out where to put the comparison between the two versions. Perhaps it best fits on the US version's page? --Jeremy Butler 12:04, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  • The only worry I have is that if you look at the Battlestar Galactica (2003) page, you'll see the page is absolutely huge and most of it is comparison to previous version. A couple of us are trying to work out that mess in a similar fashion. --vossman 12:19, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I guess I could spin off a comparison page (if it becomes necessary), if you want the very simple disambig page --vossman 12:37, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Definitely, the comparison between the shows should go on the American page, owing to its derivative nature. I love both shows, I just would assume it would make more sense to put it there. —SavMan 08:37, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Office vs. The Office (UK,US)

In my opinion I don't really think The Office article should have a whole lot of information specfically related to either edition. It makes sense for the comparison to be on this page, but I don't think the actual cast lists should. I also think the links to The Office (UK) and The Office (US) should be more obvious. And now that I look at it this: "Widely acclaimed as the most successful BBC comedy in this decade, two six-episode series of the British version of The Office have been made, along with a pair of 45-minute Christmas specials." shouldn't be listed in the this article at all, should it? Shouldn't we have a photo of Michael Scott too?

Anyway, I just wanted to make sure I'm with the concensus here. The cast lists should go, yeah? --Mrtea 22:49, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree on all levels --vossman 02:35, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


Why is there a picture of the US version on this page? If anything (other than the non-pictorial "the office" dvd covers) it should be the original version featured. No?

This is the english (as in language, not country) wikipedia, not the american one. Just a thought.

--70.49.183.153 03:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

There originally was a picture from the British version, but that picture was removed because there was no source information (ie couldn't legally use it), so it was replaced with a version from the American version that can be used. Qutezuce 03:10, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I disagree that the article should be a generic one with the US version given equal status to the UK one. Whether or not you agree that the US version is an inferior copy, the UK one is the original, and deserves to be given priority as a result. I think many fans of The Office (UK) will be offended that the US version is considered on an equal footing. Obviously we must keep such opinions out of the article, but a way to keep everyone happy is to have The Office refer to the original UK version, and The Office (US) the copy. Graham 03:39, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

The US version is less a "copy" than a remake and extension of the UK version. And it's common Wikipedia practice to give originals and remakes equal status. See, for example, the article on Big Brother (TV series), which does not give priority to the Dutch version. This makes sense to me. --Jeremy Butler 13:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Additionally, the U.S. version has outgrown the UK version by a considerable number of episodes while going on a much different and creative tangent. It is now the larger body of work and I must say, as a fan of the original Office, the U.S. Office is at least equal if not better in quality as it has been given time to drive many subtle storylines into the series that are implicitly propelled (ie: you wouldn't know that Oscar is homosexual unless you caught certain clues in only one episode and it's not revisited except via other small clues in others) - pretty unique for an American series. (Jeremy)

Sure, but Big Brother is a gameshow format and thus not directly comparable (Paul Stewart)

I have heard the term "the office" used to move marks around a casino, but can't seem to find it listed anywhere on wiki. --207.172.57.9

If we want to treat the two series equally, while not running into copyvio issues, how about an image of the DVD box for each? ProhibitOnions 12:28, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian Remake

The show will be remade once again in Canada, here is the link if the information needs to be included in the article. I saw that there was information about the French version and the German version, so why not Canadian? Here is the link: http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/canadian%20the%20office%20pays%20tribute%20to%20gervais_1005699 --Nehrams2020 07:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

The announcement of a Canadian version is very recent, which is why it's probably not already mentioned in Wikipedia. You can be bold and add it to the appropriate article yourself of course, or if you can make a decent stub, create an article for it! : ) Mrtea (talk) 20:54, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Lo and behold, I have made a well documented non-stub article on the Quebec version with lots of tasty info. You can consult it at: La Job. From you humble Quebecois anglophile servant. --Liberlogos 21:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Point of Interest and Improvised Sitcoms

In the improv sitcoms article this was listed. It has a script people! Thought I should point that out. Also, points of interest should really just be under trivia. It's trivia and POI is a bit too subjective. Thanx — ChocolateRoses talk

[edit] German remake -- "Stromberg"

There's a German remake now, too, titled "Stromberg."

[edit] Michael and Jan

The article states that Michael "bedded" Jan, his corporate boss. While this was up in the air for some time, I'm pretty sure that several episodes later, Michael admitted (to Dwight, I believe?) that they didn't actually sleep together, they just "madeout". -M

Well, it may not have been true at the time, but it's true now! Seb Patrick 22:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
They were inconsistent about whether they slept together or not. It seemed that Michael was jumping back and forth between bragging and hesitating to say anything, like he did, only much more quickly, in that interview last night where he only hinted at what happened, then hinted too much, then just admitted to it all. -- Viewdrix 22:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tables

Why are there three version comparison tables? They say pretty much the same thing, but the one in the middle uses space the best. Can we do away with the others? --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 13:28, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, the US/UK best compares the versions. And why doesn't the all inclusive table list them in chronological order, it seems to be random, with quebec first for no reason whatsoever66.108.12.31 20:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I put the Quebec one at the end and removed the language-specific tables since their info was totally redundant. This way all ther versions can be compared at once.Spebudmak 02:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


I think that the table should include the name of the companies in the various country formats --Samtheboy 18:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Images

These new images [1] on this page look awkwardly placed. Should we move them or delete? YaanchSpeak! 21:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

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