Talk:The Nose (opera)

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As an opera fan and a Shostakovich fan I gotta say, great that you guys started this. Unfortunately I have a gripe: probably the The Nose article should be the short story, which I am fairly certain is better known than the opera. How would you guys feel about moving this to The Nose (opera)? --Chinasaur 07:47, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Personally all I know of the story is from the opera, but then these things are very subjective. Are you planning to write an article on the story? We don't have many articles on individual stories, as opposed to books, so unless someone has a specific plan I doubt that one will materialise. Markalexander100 09:36, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Well, I don't think it's necessarily a subjective issue, but I agree it will be without more data. From my perspective I know only one person who has actually ever seen this opera, while I know about 10 people who have read the story. On the other hand, Shostakovich is more of a household name than Gogol, so perhaps the opera will come to dominate in the long run. Since someone has already put a synopsis of the opera plot here, and it looks pretty faithful to the story (from what I can remember) it does seem a little redundant to write an article on the story at this point. But definitely in the long run I think someone will end up writing an article on the story since it's interesting in the Gogol canon and historically. Anyway, I'll think about it and if I end up writing an article for the story then I'll move this and make the necessary links. Anyone else thinking about writing an article for the story could plan to do the same. --Chinasaur 18:09, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

That seems reasonable. Markalexander100 02:51, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Freudian "influence"

I removed a note about Freudian imagery in the plot since Gogol's story was written 20 years before Freud was born. I have to agree that many Gogol stories (Pushkin too) have elements that seem very Freudian. But I don't think we should call it that; more likely the detailed psychological characterizations of these authors influenced Freud (anybody looked into this?). If the opera has somehow additionally Freudianized the original story that might be worth mentioning, but from what I can tell the plot is pretty closely derived from Gogol.

I finally read the story last night to check up on Freud, and the plot is very close, but I've separated the pages to show the differences (mainly in structure). Markalexander100 02:48, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)