Talk:The Mosquito

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This is a stub article, how can i make it say so? It needs to be expanded. --User:MPN

Also: this is a real product. I am not making this up, therefore, i have added an external link. --User:MPN

This IS a real product, but if for some reason it doesn't belong here, you can remove it. I am not intending to break any policies. --User:MPN

Have added an article from the BBC on its use in Wales to the External Links section. --Black Butterfly 17:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Who knows how to make a user box I need an ANTI Mosqutio userbox talk or to me in my discussion TrackMonkey 21:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Have added an article from the BBC on its use in Wales to the External Links section. --Black Butterfly 17:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Speedy delete tag removed 2 Liverpool Street Station, London? 3 Backfire? 4 Bad idea 5 NPR Coverage 6 The "freemosquitoringtones" thing

[edit] Speedy delete tag removed

Wow this sounds pretty interesting. I removed the speedy delete tag, MPN, so you shouldn’t have to worry about it disappearing right away. I think the user added it before you listed the external link so it just looked like a joke. Right now I don't think it qualifies for speedy deletion. Might go through some dissuasion if someone nominates it as an article for deletion though. I can see the product getting a lot of criticism, which is something you might want to add to the article. I fixed it up a bit. Mrtea 05:39, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Figured I should mention Mosquito (device) was recently deleted, cited as being a "wild hoax". Note this list of Google News articles, however. Mrtea

Thanks! MPN 03:22, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it's definitely not a hoax. They're being installed in Hinkley, Leicestershire, UK. You can buy them here [1] It did sound like a Deus ex machina product when I heard of it. Unfortunately it looks like they're going to become more common. Rather discriminatory to those who retain youthful features and decent young citizens I feel. I am 27 and can hear the 17.7 kHZ ringtone. There are also to be higher powered ones only available to local authorities and the police. They're not going to make young people feel better about adults, surely. And it is being seen locally in Leicestershire to only shift problems elsewhere and not addressing the root cause of young people having limited social facilities.

[edit] Liverpool Street Station, London?

I noticed an annoying high pitched sound in Liverpool Street train station when I first started commuting through it (December 2005). It's still there every morning and every evening when I go through. Had wondered if it was (i) anti-vermin or (ii) designed to discourage crowds from forming (it seems to be most noticable in the central areas). Wondering if it could be this. There was a report in this morning's Metro that Welsh schoolkids have sampled the 'Mosquito sound' and are using it in school as a ringtone which is not audible to teachers. Not sure if that's technically feasible but interesting to hear (ho ho).

Here is my question how do they know that these students started using it if teachers can't hear it TrackMonkey 21:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Backfire?

I've found a bit about the concept backfiring:

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=14031&in_page_id=2

(Synopsis: teens use the recorded sound on cell-phones to get a cell phone signal inaudible to teachers)

I don't have a clue on how to fact-check that.

Noobs, just use something like y = 30000 sin 44100t or something. No need to record... Besides I'm sure that a simple sinusoid can't be as annoying as a compound wave DESIGNED to annoy. --Marco 17:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bad idea

Just wanted to leave this comment to the device is question. Telling your future custumers to buzz off does not sound like a good idea to me. --81.216.186.73 11:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

ya, who likes the box joinTrackMonkey 21:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Is there any easier (=not so much code) to add these boxes? --Marco 21:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPR Coverage

There was recently coverage of this device on National Public Radio in the U.S. The inventor was interviewed along with his teen-aged daughter. He claimed that he has sold "about 1000" of these devices. I think the statement that it has only been tested at one place is out of date. --rogerd 00:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The "freemosquitoringtones" thing

A comment I added in the "Teen Buzz" talk page, which is relevant here too.

The MP3 versions of high pitch sounds are simply misleading. First of all, MP3 encoded with 44100 sampled per second simply cannot encode pitch higher than 22050 Hz. I triple checked the "22.4khz Tone" using GoldWave. Second thing, what you DO mostly hear in those sound files is the MP3 psychoacoustics encoding error, as MP3 encoders reduce inaudible sounds such as high-pitch sounds. I made some examinations, and even with 192kbps, high-pitch sounds are reduces and resampled. Therefore, most MP3 files cannot be used for those tests.

– Fuzzy 15:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)