Talk:The Man in the High Castle

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there is an error in the following paragraph in the article "The next president, Rexford Tugwell (who is completely fictional)..."

rexford tugwell is mentioned in wikipedias's article on fdr, as follows "After the 1934 Congressional elections, which gave the Democrats large majorities in both houses, there was a fresh surge of New Deal legislation, driven by the "brains trust" of young economists and social planners gathered in the White House, including Raymond Moley, Rexford Tugwell and Adolf Berle of Columbia University, attorney Basil O'Connor, economist Bernard Baruch and Felix Frankfurter of Harvard Law School. Eleanor Roosevelt, Labor Secretary Frances Perkins (the first female Cabinet Secretary) and Agriculture Secretary Henry A. Wallace were also important influences."

so, it does not seem that he was fictional (at least, not completely :)

I've changed it. There is a Rexford Guy Tugwell page (although it consists of nothing but a copiright violation warning currently) so I've linked to it. --Shimbo 16:55, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've also amended the recently added paragraph about The Grasshopper Lies Heavy being the fictional world counterpart of "The Man in the High Castle". Although this was a valuable addition I don't think it was entirely correct, in that The Grasshopper Lies Heavy does not describe our reality. The plot of The Grasshopper Lies Heavy as described in the article certainly does not coincide with real world history. Hence I don't think the assertation that "our" real world is fiction to the inhabitants of the world of "The Man in the High Castle" is questionable and also the suggestion that Abendson is the fictional counterpart of the real Philip K Dick. I've also moved the paragrah to the themes section where I think it fits better and added my take of the relationship between the books and what this implies about the real and fictional worlds. Please let me know if you don't agree. --Shimbo 17:33, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Very stupid plot indeed

Could they explain how the USSR fell to Nazi Germany? Unless there were some huge blunders or something fantastic occured, it would be an impossibility. How was this done in the book? And no one say the U.S. didn't send aid to the USSR. For one, the U.S. sent trucks and other aid to Nazi Germany prior to war in our timeline (which were later turned into mobile deaths vans) so the two powers would be on par as a result and second the USSR started to make ground once they REFUSED aid and started using their own supplies in our timeline. I have to know the reason in the book.

-G

In our own world, the USSR was crippled during the initial stages of Operation Barbarossa due to Stalin's paranoia. Like Saddam Hussein in Iraq, he'd executed significant numbers of senior military personnel lest they threaten his dominance over the Soviet Union. As time went on, the Nazis overreached. Added to that, their British Army didn't have strategic successes in Northern Africa, therefore it was possible to coordinate Nazi Middle Eastern strategy and launch a second front against the Soviet Union in the Caucasus. With this added burden, and the lack of US contribution to the total Allied war effort in their world, Operation Barbarossa succeeded.

User Calibanu 10 February 2007 12.04

[edit] British war crime trials

Without US support against Germany, surely Britain would have collapsed before it was able to undertake carpet bombing? The large scale destruction of German cities (eg Dresden) led by Bomber Harris did not occur until much later in the (real) war. --212.113.23.124 14:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map?

A map for this article would be great, see this example --Astrokey44 13:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mr. Baynes

"Mr. Baynes" in the story actually seems to be a tribute to Cary F. Baynes, the translator of the "I Ching" into English in collaboration with Hellmut Wilhelm, Bollingen Series, Princeton University Press.--zumanon 14:40, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nuclear weapons

"Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire both possess nuclear weapons and are mired in their own Cold War."

I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. The Germans have nuclear weapons, but the Japanese do not; hence their impotence in the face of Operation Dandelion. Certainly the Japanese had no nuclear weapons program in our world prior to and during World War II. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BukkWylde (talkcontribs) 08:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

According to the book, Operation Dandelion was intended as a 'surprise' nuclear attack on Japan's "Home Islands." For the surprise to be signficant in that context, one can infer that both sides have nuclear weapons and are constrained from using them due to the existence of something analogous to the doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction during our own Cold War. For that not to be the case would imply that Nazi Germany had a strategic advantage in these matters, which it probably would have been unable to resist exploiting.

User Calibanu 10 February 2006 11.57

[edit] Colt .44

...not Colt 45. In chapter 4, Mr. Childan calls it an "exceptional Colt .44 of 1860." The gun Mr. Tagami uses in chapter 12, is also described as a "U.S. 1860 Civil War Colt .44." He laboriously loads the weapon because it is a black powder gun.

The Colt 45 wasn't manufactured until 1873 and did not use black powder and ball ammunition.

The "Colt revolver of the Frontier period" that Frank was making in chapter 4 may have been a Colt 45. However, Frank's unfinished gun was not mentioned again in the book.

--TheLimbicOne(talk) 09:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)